Trigonometric Methods - Calculating impedance in rectangular and polar forms

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The discussion revolves around calculating the equivalent impedance of a circuit using trigonometric methods, specifically focusing on converting impedance from rectangular to polar forms. Participants are addressing a homework problem involving complex numbers and their arithmetic.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the formula for calculating equivalent impedance and attempts to solve for Z using given values for Z1 and Z2.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on whether help is needed with calculator instructions, manual conversion from rectangular to polar form, or simplifying the expression to the form a + bj.
  • Several participants point out calculation errors in both the numerator and denominator of the impedance expression.
  • A participant shares a revised approach, calculating the magnitudes and angles for Z1 and Z2, and attempts to express Z in polar form.
  • Another participant cautions about sign errors in the addition of complex numbers, specifically in the imaginary components.
  • A participant questions whether the original poster knows how to convert from polar coordinates to rectangular coordinates.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that there are calculation errors present, but multiple competing views on the correct approach and methods remain unresolved. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the final solution or the best method for conversion.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential misunderstandings of calculator functions, unresolved arithmetic errors, and varying levels of familiarity with converting between coordinate systems.

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Homework Statement


Given the equivalent impedance of a circuit can be calculated by the
expression

Z= (Z_1 Z_2)/(Z_1+ Z_2 )

If Z1 = 4 + j10 and Z2 = 12 – j3, calculate the impedance Z in
both rectangular and polar forms.

Homework Equations



j2=-1

The Attempt at a Solution



Z= ((4+j10)×(12-j3))/((4+j10)+(12-j3))

Z=(48+j12-j120-j^2 30 )/(16-j7)

Z= (48+j12-j120-(-1)30)/(16-j7)

Z= (48-j108+30)/(16-j7)

Z= (78-j108)/(16-j7)

I've got completely stuck I'm afraid. From searching about, it appears it would be easier to convert this straight into polar form. My notes are quite shocking on this, please see attached. I'm using microsoft mathematic software as my calculator, but having absolutely no joy figuring out how to do this. If anybody can offer some assistance, even in just how to get the answer in the attached I'm sure i can work the rest out. Thanks.
 

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Are you asking for help with:
1. Interpreting your calculator's user instructions.
2. Converting from rectangular to polar form "by hand".
3. Reducing the Z in your last line to the form a + bj.

By the way, check the sign of the imaginary term in the denominator.
 
You have mistakes in calculation of both the numerator and the denominator.

Check your arithmetic.
 
ok thanks I've gone back to the drawing board and come up with this so far. got too engrossed in trying to find the quick way with a calculator. Hopefully this looks a bit more promising.

Z= (Z_1 Z_2)/(Z_1+ Z_2 )

r= √(a^2+ b^2 )
θ=arctan b/a

Z_1=4+j10
r = √(4^2+ 〖10〗^2 )
r=10.8
θ=arctan 10/4
θ=68.2°

Z_2=12-j3
r= √(〖12〗^2+ 3^2 )
r=12.4
θ=arctan (-3)/12
θ=-14.0°


Z= (Z_1 Z_2)/(Z_1+ Z_2 )

Z= (10.8 ∠68.2 ×12.4 ∠-14.0)/((4+j10)+(12-j3))

Z=(10.8 ×12.4 ∠ 68.2-14.0)/(16-j7)

Z= (133.92 ∠54.2)/(16-j7)

Z=((133.92 ∠54.2)/(17.5 ∠ 23.6))

Z=(133.92)/(17.5) ∠54.2-23.6

Z=7.7 ∠30.6°

just need to find the way to convert to rectangular form now.
 
Watch the signs when you add. In the denominator, j10 - j3 is not -j7. I see that you managed to "correct" the error when you found the angle for the denominator.
 
Don't you know how to convert from polar coords to rect. coords?
 

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