Trigonometric substitution of (x^2+8x)

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The problem involves evaluating the integral ∫x/(x^(2)+8x)^(1/2) dx, which falls under the subject area of calculus, specifically focusing on trigonometric substitution techniques.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts a trigonometric substitution but finds it unhelpful. Some participants suggest completing the square for the expression inside the radical as a potential approach.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different methods to tackle the integral, with some guidance provided on completing the square. The discussion reflects a mix of attempts and clarifications, but no consensus has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to begin the problem and has indicated that previous trigonometric substitution problems were more straightforward. There is a mention of a lack of understanding regarding completing the square until recently.

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Homework Statement


Hello PF, I am taking calculus II right now, and a homework problem I came to ponder upon has been giving me big trouble today. Here is the what I have to take the integral of:

∫x/(x^(2)+8x)^(1/2) dx

Every other trig substitution problems were straight forward, as all I had to do was identify what trig identity I could use. But this time, I have no idea where to start from.

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The Attempt at a Solution


In wishful thinking I set substitution for x=(8^(1/2))tan(t), but as expected it didn't work out after.

Help would be greatly appreciated!
 
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$$\int \frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2+8x}}\;dx$$... you need a substitution that makes the term inside the radical a complete square.

That is the point behind trig substitutions.
So try completing the square inside the radical first.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
$$\int \frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2+8x}}\;dx$$... you need a substitution that makes the term inside the radical a complete square.

That is the point behind trig substitutions.
So try completing the square inside the radical first.

OK, I didn't know how to complete a square until now. I tried, and I'm making progress now, thank you!
 
You looked it up - well done :)
Let me know how you get on.
 
Sorry, what I had here was not correct. I think the best thing is to remove it.
 
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