Trigonometry Review: Conflict Answer, Probably Me

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The discussion revolves around a trigonometric equation where the original poster seeks to find all values of x in the interval [0, 2π] that satisfy the equation sin x = tan x. The context involves basic calculus and trigonometry, highlighting the relationship between sine and tangent functions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to manipulate the equation by substituting tan x with sin x / cos x and rearranging terms. They express confusion about the inclusion of x = π in the answer key, questioning their own reasoning regarding cosine values.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the implications of dividing by terms that may equal zero. Some guidance has been offered regarding the importance of factoring instead of canceling terms, which has led to a deeper understanding for the original poster.

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There is an emphasis on the potential pitfalls of dividing by zero in trigonometric equations, with specific reference to the values of x that could lead to such situations.

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SOLVED! Thank-you jhicks and Tedjn!

I am taking a basic calculus course and have some weaknesses when it comes to trigonometry. In this case, it's pure trig.

Homework Statement


The question states: "Find all values of x in the interval [0,2pi] that satisfy the equation sin x = tan x".

Homework Equations


I do know that: tan x = sin x / cos x

The Attempt at a Solution


Since I know that tan x = sin x / cos x, I can rewrite the above equation sin x = tan x to:
sin x = sin x / cos x
Rearranging and canceling terms, I get:
cos x = 1
So my answer to this problem would be x = 0 and 2pi (in radians, of course), that satisfy the given interval.
I based this answer on the "Trig Functions of Important Angles" and worked out the multiples of pi that satisfied the equation cos x = 1.

My problem is (lol, isn't it always) with the answer key. While they agree that 0 and 2pi are correct, they also add pi. Why? When I consider the cosine of pi (in radians), I get -1, not one. Pi doesn't seem to agree with cos x = 1 when x=pi.
Yet, when I work out sin x = tan x, using x=pi, it works out to 0=0, which is certainly true. How did I miss it? Where'd I go wrong?
 
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Don't ever divide out terms like that. You get rid of roots when that happens. In this case, your modified equation fails to see that 0 = 0/-1
 
jhicks... not sure what you're getting at. Here's what I did when I said I "Rearranged and canceled" terms:

sin x = sin x / cos x (because tan x = sin x / cos x)
sin x * cos x = sin x (multiply both sides by cos x)
cos x = sin x / sin x (divide both sides by sin x)
cos x = 1 (left with... cos x = 1)

When you say, "Don't ever divide out terms like that. You get rid of roots when that happens. In this case, your modified equation fails to see that 0 = 0/-1", I don't understand. Could you please elaborate?
 
You lose solutions when you divide by 0. When you divide both sides by sin x, you are dividing by 0 if x = 0, pi, 2pi, etc., and division by 0 is illegal. Instead, the typical trick for these cases is to factor.

sin(x)cos(x) = sin(x) => sin(x)cos(x) - sin(x) = 0 => sin(x)(cos(x)-1) = 0. Here, we see clearly that we have solutions whenever sin(x) = 0 or cos(x) - 1 = 0.
 
Ohhhh, okay, I think I get what you're saying. Because I canceled out the sin x term and not just factored it, I lost it; same idea as solving for x -> (x+2)(x+4)=0 ; x=-2 or -4; in this example I divided out the (x+4) and only arrived that x=-2, ignoring the (x+4), which I can't forget about...

Okay, I think I get it...I felt that little light bulb go off. I know where to come if I run into more trouble.

Thanks all!
 

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