Troubleshooting a Wrong Answer with Coulomb's Law

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving Coulomb's Law and the calculation of net force between multiple charges. The original poster attempts to find the net force by applying the Pythagorean theorem to determine distances and then using Coulomb's Law to sum forces, but encounters an incorrect result.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the importance of considering the vector nature of forces rather than simply summing magnitudes. There are suggestions to analyze forces directionally and to set up a reference frame for clarity.

Discussion Status

Multiple participants have provided insights regarding the vector components of forces, emphasizing the need to account for direction in calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of how to correctly apply Coulomb's Law in this context, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential misunderstandings regarding the application of the Pythagorean theorem and the necessity of incorporating vector directions in the force calculations.

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Hello -

I worked out this problem but I got a wrong answer.

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First, I used the Pythagorean theorem to find the radial distance between A and each charges. So 1.2m divided by 2 (= 0.6), then the square root of .6 squared + .6 squared = .849, which is the radius.

Then I used Coulomb's Law to calculate the net force:

kqAq1/R2 + kqAq2/R2 + ... and so forth.

I took out the kqA/R2, which is the same for all, and came up with:

kqA/R2 (q1 + q2 + q3 + q4).

But it so happens that the numbers inside the parenthesis turns out to be 0.

What did I do wrong?
 
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I think you're forgetting the vector nature of force. Simply adding up the numbers won't do any good. You have to add them vectorially.
 
First your pythagorean theorem is a bit off. it should be:

[tex]a^2=b^2+c^2[/tex]

EDIT: You got it right I misinterpreted what you had done originally.

Then you have neglected to take any directions when working out the force so try setting up a reference freame and adding the directions into your equation.
 
Hello sophzilla,

I think you don't take into account that the forces are vectors.

You can start applying Coulomb's law for one diagonal at a time. For instance [tex]Q_4, q, Q_2[/tex]. Do you agree that the 2 forces will add up to a net force pointing from [tex]q[/tex] towards [tex]Q_2[/tex]?

Regards,

nazzard
 
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I would appreciate any help. Thanks.
 
Those are not vectors. That is why it is not working. Consider the unit vectors i and j and how they would add up to pointin the directions you require to the charges from the centre. The magnitudes are then as you have calculated.
 

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