Troubleshooting Force Calculation Errors

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The discussion revolves around calculating forces between charged particles, specifically focusing on the interactions involving three charges and their respective distances. The original poster is troubleshooting errors in their force calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the net force on one charge by considering the forces exerted by two other charges. They express confusion over discrepancies in their results compared to expected values. Some participants question the distances used in the calculations and suggest verifying the sign conventions applied to the forces.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding potential typos and the importance of sign conventions in the equations. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to identify and rectify errors without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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There are indications of possible typos in the calculations, as well as a need to reassess the distances and signs used in the force equations. The original poster mentions receiving feedback about significant discrepancies in their results, which may imply imposed homework constraints on accuracy.

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Three point charges lie along a straight line as shown in the figure below, where q1 = 6.60 µC, q2 = 1.42 µC, and q3 = -2.04 µC. The separation distances are d1 = 3.00 cm and d2 = 2.00 cm. Calculate the magnitude and direction of the net electric force on each of the charges. I attached the picture of it below.
Relevant Equations
Equation: F = k|q1||q2| / r^2
I attempted this a few times but keep getting the same wrong answer...
Converted the values:
q1 = 6.6E-6
q2 = 1.42E-6
q3 = -2.04E-6
d1 = .03m
d2 = .02m

Calculation for force on 1
F1 = - F12 + F13 = - (9E9*6.6E-6*1.42E-6 / .03^2) + (9E9*6.6E-6*2.04E-6 / .02^2)

(I used negative for F12 to account for the charges repelling.)
The answer I got for this one was 209 and it says it differs more than 100%!

I did likewise with the second and got 28.5 and that was off by more than 10%. I don't think I did anything different for these, but I'm not sure. Please help! And thanks in advance!
 

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Welcome to the PF. :smile:
r-swald said:
Calculation for force on 1
F1 = - F12 + F13 = - (9E9*6.6E-6*1.42E-6 / .03^2) + (9E9*6.6E-6*2.04E-6 / .02^2)
Q1 is the left-hand charge, so the distance to Q3 is not just 2cm...
 
Awesome! got it. I didn't even think about that, now I Just have to figure out what I did wrong with the other one
 
Yeah so the second one I'm still getting wrong, it's probably something just as silly 🤔
F2 = F13 - F23 = (9E9*61.42E-6*6.6E-6 / .03^2) - (9E9*1.42E-6*2.04E-6 / .02^2)
I'm getting 28.54 for this and still saying I'm 10% off.
 
r-swald said:
F2 = F13 - F23 = (9E9*61.42E-6*6.6E-6 / .03^2) - (9E9*1.42E-6*2.04E-6 / .02^2)
I think you have a typo F13 should be F12, right? And I'd use sign convention where forces to the right on a charge are positive (positive x-axis), and forces to the left are negative. Maybe check the signs in that equation...? :smile:
 
berkeman said:
I think you have a typo F13 should be F12, right? And I'd use sign convention where forces to the right on a charge are positive (positive x-axis), and forces to the left are negative. Maybe check the signs in that equation...? :smile:
Also, there's an extra digit 6 in there (61.42).
 
Oh yeah, it was a sign problem. Thank you!
 
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