Troubleshooting Bridge Rectifier in LT Spice Simulation

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The discussion revolves around troubleshooting a bridge rectifier in an LT Spice simulation as part of a linear power supply project. Participants are addressing issues related to the expected output waveform, the relationship between DC and AC voltages, and the correct interpretation of simulation results.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about obtaining a sine wave output with negative values reflected in a bridge rectifier setup.
  • Another suggests plotting the difference between rectified voltages or the voltage across the load resistor to aid in troubleshooting.
  • A participant raises a question about the relationship between Vdc and Vac, referencing a formula (Vdc = 1.41 x Vac) and expressing uncertainty about their results.
  • Some participants clarify that the formula for Vdc uses the rms voltage for Vac and does not account for diode voltage drops in the rectifier.
  • One participant proposes a method to calculate Vac based on desired Vdc and the voltage across the regulator.
  • Another suggests checking the Spice circuit to verify the relationship between the regulator input voltage and the amplitude of the transformer secondary voltage.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct approach to troubleshooting the simulation, as multiple viewpoints and interpretations of the formulas and results are presented.

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There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about voltage readings and the specific configurations of the circuit components, which may affect the outcomes discussed.

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Homework Statement


I am to build a linear power supply in four stages. However, at stage two, i have to add a bridge rectifier to the ouput of my transformer. My lecturer at university says i should get a graph that is a sine wave, with the negative values reflected into the positive x-axis (Volatage). I was wondering were am i going wrong?


2. The attempt at a solution
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/1367/ltspice1gm7.jpg


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
 
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You need to plot the difference between rectifidp and rectifidn. Or, alternatively, plot the voltage across your load resistor, R5.
 
Yeah, had a suspicion it might have been that, but it took me a while to work out how to enter an expression. Only started using the program a few days ago, so I'm still getting used to it.

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/138/ltspice2rc0.jpg

Many thanks for your help.
 
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I've got another problem. For a full wave bridge, with a capacitive filter, we are told the following relationship between Vdc [V(Regout)-V(Rectifidn)] and Vac [V(Secondary)]:

Vdc = 1.41 x Vac

However, I'm obtaining the following results:

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/5310/lt4vr1.jpg

I'm just wondering if i have the wrong formula, or taking incorrect readings?

Thanks.
 
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lukesowersby said:
Vdc = 1.41 x Vac

A couple of things to keep in mind here:

That formula uses the rms voltage, not the amplitude, for Vac.

Also, it does not account for the 2 diode drops in the rectifier voltage.
 
Redbelly98 said:
A couple of things to keep in mind here:

That formula uses the rms voltage, not the amplitude, for Vac.

Also, it does not account for the 2 diode drops in the rectifier voltage.
Ah, forgot about rms. Thanks.

That equation was given a bridge rectifier (4 diodes) with a capacitor and load resistor, but exluding the regulator. So i assume to calculate Vac, if i want Vdc of 5, i simply calculate 5+the voltage acrross the regultor, all divided by 1.41.
 
You can check that on your Spice circuit, "transformer1 stage 5".

If you plot

V(rectifidp) - V(rectifidn)​
and
V(secondary)​

you can see if the regulator input voltage equals the amplitude of the transformer secondary.
 
Yeah, thanks for your help.
 

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