Troubleshooting Diagram Questions for TDA7294 Datasheet

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The discussion revolves around troubleshooting issues related to the TDA7294 amplifier circuit, focusing on the interpretation of the schematic diagram, connection points for audio inputs, and potential faults in the circuit assembly. Participants are seeking clarification on specific components and their functions, as well as assistance in diagnosing problems with their setups.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the connection of signal inputs at pins 7, 8, 13, and 15, suggesting a misunderstanding of their roles in relation to supply voltages.
  • Another participant clarifies that pins 7 and 13 are power supply connections and not input points, indicating that the actual audio inputs are at pins 2 and 3.
  • There is uncertainty about whether the mute and standby features can be omitted from the circuit if not used, with a suggestion to connect those pins to ground.
  • A participant reports issues with their circuit not functioning, expressing concern over a possible short circuit that may have damaged the IC.
  • Another participant advises checking the power supply for current limitations, as the voltage readings suggest a potential issue with the power supply's output.
  • There are requests for further details, such as voltage readings at specific pins and the condition of components, to aid in troubleshooting.
  • One participant mentions a bulging capacitor, questioning its reliability without definitive correlation to failure.

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Participants do not appear to reach consensus on the interpretation of the schematic or the troubleshooting steps, as multiple viewpoints and uncertainties are expressed regarding the connections and potential faults in the circuit.

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Participants express uncertainty about the implications of specific voltage readings and the condition of components, indicating that further investigation is needed to clarify these issues.

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Individuals working on or troubleshooting TDA7294 amplifier circuits, as well as those interested in understanding schematic diagrams and component functions in audio electronics.

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First question is about connecting the signal inputs. If you look at pin 7 and 13 and 8 and 15 you see they are connected. I would read this to mean that the input voltages are combined with the supply voltages. This seems unusual. Am I reading it right?

Where do I connect the actual audio inputs in this diagram? At the black dots above the pin 7 and below pin 8? Not super clear to me.

If I'm not planning on using the mute or standby can I leave that part of the circuit out?

The squiggly circle on the left of the diagram - what is it?

TDA7294 Datasheet

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mearvk said:
First question is about connecting the signal inputs. If you look at pin 7 and 13 and 8 and 15 you see they are connected. I would read this to mean that the input voltages are combined with the supply voltages. This seems unusual. Am I reading it right?

Where do I connect the actual audio inputs in this diagram? At the black dots above the pin 7 and below pin 8? Not super clear to me.

If I'm not planning on using the mute or standby can I leave that part of the circuit out?

The squiggly circle on the left of the diagram - what is it?

TDA7294 Datasheet

Thanks.

You are reading the schematic wrong. Pin 7 is the positive power supply for the input amplifier, Pin 13 is the positive power supply. for the output driver. They are supposed to be shorted. Neither is the input (same goes for 8 and 15, they are the negative supplies). The actual audio inputs are pins 2 and 3. That little squiggly circle with the sinewave in it is your input source.

According to the datasheet, the mute and standby inputs are active high so just connect those pins to ground if you don't want to use those features.
 
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Hello gents.

Finished my 1st effort on the TDA7294 this evening. It does not work, perhaps not surprisingly. :-)

I'll post pictures probably later/tomorrow in an effort to get you guys to help me debug it. In the mean time I wonder if there's some way to know what part of the circuit is faulty.

I should say that while checking the connection between 13 and 15 there was a snap/spark. I think this was due to soldering that may have been between the pins. Went up in a flash. Not sure if I cooked the IC or not.

I have a 2A 25.2v power supply feeding it but the multimeter shows around 13.6v at the power source and at pins 13 and 15. No voltage at all between 14 and ground. Input device (MP3 player or my iPod) works fine on the 14w amplifier (TDA2030) so I doubt that's the issue. Not sure if I should check that for voltage or whatever.

I'll throw up some pics later, as promised.

Thanks.
 
mearvk said:
Hello gents.

Finished my 1st effort on the TDA7294 this evening. It does not work, perhaps not surprisingly. :-)

I'll post pictures probably later/tomorrow in an effort to get you guys to help me debug it. In the mean time I wonder if there's some way to know what part of the circuit is faulty.

I should say that while checking the connection between 13 and 15 there was a snap/spark. I think this was due to soldering that may have been between the pins. Went up in a flash. Not sure if I cooked the IC or not.
Depends on what pin you shorted to what. If you shorted to pin 14, usually it's not good!
I have a 2A 25.2v power supply feeding it but the multimeter shows around 13.6v at the power source and at pins 13 and 15. No voltage at all between 14 and ground. Input device (MP3 player or my iPod) works fine on the 14w amplifier (TDA2030) so I doubt that's the issue. Not sure if I should check that for voltage or whatever.
Can you read the current of your 25.2V supply? if you have only 13.6V, you likely run into current limiting. Check to make sure your supply is set to give enough current. Pin 14 better not having any voltage or your speaker will smoke!
I'll throw up some pics later, as promised.

Thanks.

How about the voltage on pin 8 and 15?

Scan a copy of your schematic and take a few picture of your circuit from different angle. There is no way to troubleshoot like this.
 
Despite sincere efforts from my cat I was able to get some stuff uploaded.

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The red dots indicate a soldered connection. I left the 'legs' on the caps and resistors because I was pretty sure it wasn't going to work right off. Thus it may appear that there are connections but there may not be!

One of the 1000 uF caps has a bulgy top - not sure if this correlates 100% with a bad cap or not though.

The reference diagram is the 'typical application' in the TDA7294 datasheet.

Anyways, help appreciated.
 
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