Troubleshooting Oscillations in an IF Amplifier

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The discussion revolves around troubleshooting oscillations in an intermediate frequency (IF) amplifier. Participants explore potential causes of the oscillation, solutions implemented, and suggestions for further modifications. The scope includes technical explanations and practical troubleshooting approaches.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes an IF amplifier that oscillates at 10.7 MHz when connected to a monolithic crystal filter, suggesting a positive feedback issue.
  • Another participant requests additional information, including a schematic, to better understand the design and context of the amplifier.
  • A participant reports success in reducing oscillation by adding a 3.3 pF capacitor across the collector and base, though this resulted in decreased gain.
  • One suggestion is made regarding proper shielding to prevent output radiation from affecting the input.
  • Another participant proposes using a ferrite bead in series with the base of the transistor as an alternative to increasing Miller capacitance.

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Participants express differing views on the causes of the oscillation and the effectiveness of various solutions. While some solutions have been implemented, there is no consensus on the best approach to fully resolve the issue.

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Limitations include the absence of schematics and detailed design information, which may affect the understanding of the circuit behavior and the proposed solutions.

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I'm working on an IF amp and whatever I do it starts oscillating.

A monolithic crystal filter 10.7 MHz, about 330 ohm is fed into a nicely designed npn transistor 20 dB amp, with bypass caps all over the sucker. It is in common emmiter configuration. The amp responds nicely to a test signal, but when I touch one end of the filter to the base, the amp starts oscillating at 10.7 MHz. I have to disconnect it from power to kill oscillation.

I tried a simple L match, but has no affect. So somehow the amp is getting a positive feedback.

Is there anyway to fix the problem?
 
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Can you post a picture and the schematic? Is it a kit, a homebrew, a work design, or working with an existing circuit from a TV or something?
 
Problem fixed, I put a 3.3 pf cap across the collector and the base to provide some more negative feedback. Oscillation stopped but the gain went down, grrr.

Don't have schematics, it's just a normal amp, I'm just baffled as to why that happened.
 
Proper sheilding is probaby the issue.
You need to keep the amp output from being radiated back to the input.
 
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Problem fixed, I put a 3.3 pf cap across the collector and the base to provide some more negative feedback. Oscillation stopped but the gain went down, grrr.

Don't have schematics, it's just a normal amp, I'm just baffled as to why that happened.

Instead of increasing the Miller capacitance like that, try adding a ferrite bead in series with the base of that transistor. If the transistor is a through-hole device, you can often just string a bead onto the base lead.
 

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