True/false question on integration

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The discussion revolves around a true/false question regarding the properties of integrals of a continuous function f(x) that is always positive. The original poster expresses confusion about why the integral could be considered negative despite the function being positive.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the implications of the limits of integration, questioning whether the integral is evaluated from 0 to x or from x to 0. There is also discussion about the nature of the function (real vs. complex) and how that might affect the integral's value.

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The discussion is active, with participants raising various interpretations of the problem and considering different scenarios that could lead to the integral being negative. Some suggest that the evaluation direction of the integral is crucial, while others propose consulting a teacher for further clarification.

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There is a mention of the integral potentially being evaluated over a negative interval if x is less than 0, which could lead to confusion regarding the sign of the integral. The context of the problem being from an old exam adds a layer of complexity to the discussion.

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Let f(x) > 0 be a continuous function. Then F(x) = ∫f(t) dt ≥ 0 [0, x] for all values of x.

I would have chosen true, but the answer is false. If f(x) is always positive, then how can the integral ever be negative?

Thanks.
 
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is this answer in a book or the prof said so?

is the t going from 0 to x or x to 0? that could be the difference.
 
It is part of an old exam, the solutions say that the answer is false.
 
then its probably due to whether its evaluated from 0..x or x..0
 
The bottom limit on the integral is 0 and the top limit is x.
 
We haven't discussed the differences between real and complex integrals, so it's real.
 
I can't think of any other trick so I think you're right and I'd go with that. You could ask a teacher about it.

For f(x)>0 then conceptually sum of the vertical strip areas from 0 to x would make the answer positive. The trick is looking for some way to have ( F(x) - F(0) ) < 0 but ( F(x) - F(0) ) is the area vertical strip areas from 0 to x.

So given that f(x) is real then the only way is for the integral to be negative is if its evaluated from x to 0, Since it wasn't explicitly shown at least in your example.
 
I think I may have gotten it. Is it because x can be any value, so that the integral can go from 0 to -3, for example, where we would receive a negative value?
 
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perhaps but wouldn't the closed interval be written as [x,0] to imply that x<0
 
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If you're going in the standard direction [0,x] , then your F(x) is positive:

F(x):=∫x0 f(t)dt

So F(0)=0 ; F'(x)=f(x) , by FTCalculus, and f(x)>0 by assumption.

If x<0 , then F(x)<0 by same argument.
 

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