Trying to explain fuzzy logic to a friend.

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The discussion revolves around explaining fuzzy logic, particularly in relation to a friend's claim that fuzzy logic determines the probability of a bit being 0 or 1 in a computer system, and that this probability is the golden ratio. The scope includes conceptual clarification and technical reasoning regarding fuzzy logic and its applications.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion over the friend's assertion that fuzzy logic determines the chance of a bit being 0 or 1, questioning the validity of linking this to the golden ratio.
  • Another participant suggests that the friend might be conflating fuzzy logic with the behavior of binary logic gates, where signals transition between states.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the quality of the referenced paper, with one stating they found it lacking in clarity regarding fuzzy logic formalization.
  • There is a suggestion that the friend's claim might be a joke, but another participant insists that the friend is serious about their belief.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the validity of the friend's claims, with multiple competing views regarding the interpretation of fuzzy logic and its relation to binary systems and the golden ratio.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions and applications of fuzzy logic, as well as the implications of linking it to binary logic and the golden ratio.

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Hi,

I'm trying to come up with a way to explain fuzzy logic to a friend of mine. After reading this paper:
http://www.polytech.univ-savoie.fr/fileadmin/polytech_autres_sites/sites/listic/busefal/Papers/67.zip/67_02.pdf

He is adamant that Fuzzy Logic determines the chance that a bit in a computer system is 0 or 1. Furthermore, this percentage is the golden ratio. To me this make no sense at all. I've tried to reason him out of this insane notion, but to no avail. Can anyone offer any good points as to why this idea just isn't viable?


Mark
 
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That last link is exactly the paper I posted in my original post.
 
mwilson said:
That last link is exactly the paper I posted in my original post.
Sorry, I didn't read your reference but responded to the question you had.

Perhaps your friend is thinking of fuzzy logic being ingrained in the physics of binary logic gates where an incoming signal changes from 0 to 1 and the gate optimally switches sometime in between the two states.

http://www.misprofesores.com/uploads/artic8.pdf

and further believes that the golden ratio applies to the switching action.
 
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He is adamant that Fuzzy Logic determines the chance that a bit in a computer system is 0 or 1. Furthermore, this percentage is the golden ratio.

I'm pretty sure your friend is joking.
 
TheDemx27 said:
I'm pretty sure your friend is joking.

Unfortunately, I can assure you he is 100% serious...
 
I just ate that paper up by the way. At least up until the part where it formalizes the fuzzy logic. That was a bit iffy in my opinion.
 
I am not convinced that paper is worth the electricity that went into lighting my computer screen for the few minutes it took me to read it.
 
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