Trying to find an angle in lines layed on top of a circle

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding an angle related to lines intersecting within a circle, as depicted in an attached image. The problem involves geometric principles and the relationships between angles and arcs in circular geometry.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the measures of angles formed by intersecting lines and their relationship to arcs. There are attempts to apply geometric rules and theorems related to angles and arcs, with some participants questioning the correct application of these concepts.

Discussion Status

Several participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem and the relevant geometric theorems. Guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between angles and arcs, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or solution yet.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the steps taken and the relevance of their calculations. There is mention of specific angles and arcs, but the overall context remains incomplete, with various assumptions and interpretations being discussed.

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Homework Statement


The problem is attached as TheProblem.jpg and the answer is A.

Homework Equations


Geometry rules.

The Attempt at a Solution


The triangle which has angles of 30deg and 10deg also has an angle of 180deg-30deg-10deg = 140deg and the other side of the line intersection “scissor” is also 140deg. The two equivalent angles on the other part of the line intersection “scissor” are (360deg-2*140deg)/2 = 40deg. I don't know if what I did so far is even useful nor do I know how to proceed from here.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance!
 

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First try and identify what arcs you need to know the measure of to find angle ACE.
What formula are you going to ultimately use?
 
I'm really unsure but (1) arc AE and (2) comparing an angle ratio with an arc/circumference ratio?
 
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Have you learned "If AB and CD are lines intersecting inside a circle, then the angle between them is the average of the two arcs they make on the circle"? That is the theorem you need.
 
HallsofIvy, did you mean "difference" instead of "average"? Because, if you did, then I get the correct answer by doing:

angle A0E = 2 * angle ABE = 2 * 30deg = 60deg

then

angle ACE = 1/2 * (60-10) deg = 25deg
 
s3a said:

Homework Statement


The problem is attached as TheProblem.jpg and the answer is A.

Homework Equations


Geometry rules.

The Attempt at a Solution


The triangle which has angles of 30deg and 10deg also has an angle of 180deg-30deg-10deg = 140deg and the other side of the line intersection “scissor” is also 140deg. The two equivalent angles on the other part of the line intersection “scissor” are (360deg-2*140deg)/2 = 40deg. I don't know if what I did so far is even useful nor do I know how to proceed from here.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance!

Consider the chord BD (and the minor arc BD). What can you say about the relationship between the angles BOD and BED?

That should take you most of the way.
 
s3a said:
HallsofIvy, did you mean "difference" instead of "average"? Because, if you did, then I get the correct answer by doing:

angle A0E = 2 * angle ABE = 2 * 30deg = 60deg

then

angle ACE = 1/2 * (60-10) deg = 25deg
Well, the rule I was thinking of requires that when two lines intersecting a circle come from outside the circle, the arc it cuts is considered negative. The lines BA and BE intersect an arc of measure 0 (at B) and arc AE. The angle is 30 degrees so we have (AE+ 0)/2= 30 so arc AE has measure 2(30)= 60 degrees.

Arc AD is intercepted by lines BO and DO. Of course, the measure of an angle is defined by the central angle it intercepts so it has measure 10 degrees. (Of course, the other arc those two lines intercept would be 10 degrees also so "average" still works.)

That is, lines CA and CE intercept the circle in arcs AE and BD. They come to arc AE from outside the outside so we consider that arc measure negative: the measure of the angle is (-10+ 60)/2= 25 degrees.
 

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