Trying to find orbital velocity based off of height

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The discussion revolves around calculating the orbital velocity of a spacecraft in circular orbit around Earth at an altitude of 397 km. Participants are exploring the application of gravitational constants and formulas related to orbital mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various methods for calculating orbital velocity, including the use of gravitational constants. Some express confusion over discrepancies in answers obtained through different approaches and question the precision of constants used.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their calculations and questioning the accuracy of their results. Some have provided alternative values and noted differences in expected outcomes, while others are seeking clarification on the constants used in the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention issues with an online testing system that requires precise answers, which adds pressure to their calculations. There is also a reference to a midterm review problem that has similar parameters but yields a different answer, prompting further inquiry into the professor's methodology.

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Homework Statement


A Titan IV rocket has put your spacecraft in circular orbit around Earth at an altitude of 397 km. What is your orbital velocity? Give your answer in m/s.

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http://as370.socialhwk.com/engr370i/ch04/ch4_3/IMG00016.GIF

The Attempt at a Solution


I have been attempting to take the online midterm for the class but I have been having issues. Every answer I have inputed for the first question comes out as incorrect.
When using this formula and substituting 500km for 397km for the midterm I get: 7688.328079. I have tried inputing this in as many variations as possible but am told it is incorrect every time.


I have also tried using an online orbital velocity calculator to confirm my math and I receive the answer 7673.24507 which also does not work.

I'm completely stuck and cannot progress with the test. I was wondering if there was something I was doing wrong or if there was an issue with the midterm.
also if it helps, the professor has included a midterm review which he has posted a similar problem with the answer, but not how he got the answer:

A Titan IV rocket has put your spacecraft in circular orbit around Earth at an altitude of 350 km. What is your orbital velocity? Give your answer in m/s.

Answer: V = 7697.5 m/s
 
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Try using GM = 398600 km^3/s^2 for Earth to calculate orbital velocity.

V will have units of km/s, so convert to m/s
 
SteamKing said:
Try using GM = 398600 km^3/s^2 for Earth to calculate orbital velocity.

V will have units of km/s, so convert to m/s


if i did it right, i got 7.674861 km/s or 7674.861 m/s, however, it is telling me it is also wrong...
 
Looks to me that you're just a bit inaccurate somewhere. Using GM = 3.98E14 I get:
397km: 7673 m/s
500km: 7615m/s
350km: 7700m/s
 
Hmm, but what i don't understand is, you got 7700 m/s for 350 and for the example problem, it says 7697.5. Is the teacher doing something differently?
 
kasra12321 said:
Hmm, but what i don't understand is, you got 7700 m/s for 350 and for the example problem, it says 7697.5. Is the teacher doing something differently?
That's only a 0.03% difference (2.5km). The radius of the Earth is not that precisely definable - it varies by 30km. I would argue that 7697.5 is wrong in that it overstates the precision.
 
Yea i understand what you mean, but the problem is that the test is online and unless I get the precise answer, I can't move on to the next question. which is a terrible system. I guess I need to find out what constants the professor used to reach that number in the example problem.
 
i ended up solving backwards for the constant he used and got 6,400^3. I used that in the problem and got the right answer. Thanks for the help though.
 

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