Trying to pinpoint the name of an old mechanics textbook

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The discussion revolves around identifying a specific mechanics textbook from a series that is considered more challenging than typical introductory texts. Participants share their recollections and suggestions regarding various physics textbooks, including those that cover mechanics and quantum mechanics, and discuss their characteristics and availability.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to identify a mechanics textbook from a series that includes a quantum mechanics book, noting it is more difficult than Sears & Zemansky but not Halliday & Resnick or Serway.
  • Several participants suggest potential candidates, including the Berkeley Physics Course, Kittel Mechanics, Manchester Physics Series, and MIT Introductory Physics Series.
  • Alonso and Finn's three-volume series is proposed as a possible match, with one participant confirming it as the correct title.
  • There is a discussion about the out-of-print status of the original editions of these books and concerns that newer editions may have reduced content.
  • One participant mentions Shankar's two volumes on introductory physics as a good alternative, suggesting a method of studying that combines it with problems from a more standard physics book.
  • There is a humorous exchange regarding the name "Alonso and Finn," likening it to a law firm or a detective series, which leads to some confusion among participants.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that Alonso and Finn's series is the correct identification of the mechanics textbook sought, but there is no consensus on the best alternatives or the quality of newer editions.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the specific editions and their content, particularly regarding the out-of-print status and the changes in newer editions. The discussion also reflects varying opinions on the effectiveness of alternative textbooks.

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I am trying to find a series of books that was very helpful for me during first year university. The first in the series is a Mechanics textbook. There are at least two others, one that introduces quantum mechanics. These books are known to be much more difficult that the usual Sears & Semanski, but are still considered introductory. It is neither the Halliday&Resnick or Serway. The books were probably made for engineers, but I am not totally sure. The books use imperial units. If anybody has a good list of mechanics books that would help, Google is not being very helpful.
 
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Frabjous said:
Berkeley Physics Course
Kittel Mechanics
No it was less "mainstream"
 
Manchester Physics Series
Dynamics and Relativity by Forshaw

MIT Introductory Physics Series
French Newtonian Mechanics

Alonso and Finn (3 vol)
 
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Frabjous said:
Alonso and Finn (3 vol)
That's the one. Thanks.
 
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pines-demon said:
That's the one. Thanks.
To remember it if needed again, think of a law firm or another detective series on TV.
 
WWGD said:
To remember it if needed again, think of a law firm or another detective series on TV.
I guess I did not catch the reference. What do you mean?
 
pines-demon said:
I guess I did not catch the reference. What do you mean?
I meant as a heuristic. The name " Alonso and Finn" sound like one of those cop shows, or the name of a law firm. Yes, I guess an off-the-cuff comment. If you forget it at some later point that the name of the book sounded like the name of the show, or like the name of a law firm. ;).
 
WWGD said:
I meant as a heuristic. The name " Alonso and Finn" sound like one of those cop shows, or the name of a law firm. Yes, I guess an off-the-cuff comment. If you forget it at some later point that the name of the book sounded like the name of the show, or like the name of a law firm. ;).
– What was the name of the mechanics book again?
– Starsky & Hutch, Introduction to Classical Field Theory


Jokes aside, there are various author duos so it is easy to mix them up.
 
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pines-demon said:
That's the one. Thanks.
Those are pretty good books, and I believe the best intro physics book.

The issue is that they are out of print, and the newer edition, titled Physics, is watered down and removes the content of mainly the 2nd and hugely the third volume.

Physics titled book is still good, but yeah.

For a cheaper alternative. I also like shankars two volumes on intro physics. Get the 2nd ed? The one that has problems and a copy of a general physics book.

Read Shankar for the physics then do problems from a run of the mill physics book. Then attempt the problems in Shankar.

Total cost for this option would be no more than $60 usd.
 
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MidgetDwarf said:
The issue is that they are out of print, and the newer edition, titled Physics, is watered down and removes the content of mainly the 2nd and hugely the third volume.
What is the out of print good edition titled? "Fundamental University Physics"?
 
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Muu9 said:
What is the out of print good edition titled? "Fundamental University Physics"?
Yes, in three volumes.
 

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