Twin Paradox Theory: Explained for 9th Graders

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the Twin Paradox, a thought experiment in special relativity, exploring the implications of time dilation and the effects of traveling at relativistic speeds. Participants seek to understand the underlying reasons for time differences experienced by the twins and the effects on distance and mass at speeds approaching the speed of light.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the Twin Paradox scenario, noting that time passes differently for the traveling twin compared to the twin on Earth, but expresses confusion about the reasons behind this phenomenon.
  • Another participant suggests that because speed is relative, comparing Earth's time speed to the speed of light is not straightforward.
  • There is a discussion about how distance appears to shorten for objects moving at relativistic speeds, with one participant stating that distance along the direction of travel appears shorter compared to a stationary observer.
  • Concerns are raised about the effects of traveling near the speed of light on mass, with one participant stating that mass would appear to increase to an outside observer, while the moving object would not sense any change in its mass.
  • One participant mentions that the constancy of the speed of light (c) is a universal principle, but questions remain about why c is constant, referencing experiments with atomic clocks in motion.
  • Another participant notes that the Twin Paradox is not truly a paradox when considering the effects of acceleration on the traveling twin.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the perception of time, indicating that time does not appear to slow down for the traveler but does so from the perspective of stationary observers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the implications of the Twin Paradox, with some agreeing on the effects of acceleration and time dilation, while others remain uncertain about the reasons behind the constancy of the speed of light and its implications for time and distance. The discussion does not reach a consensus on these complex topics.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion over the relationship between speed, time, and distance, indicating a lack of clarity on how these concepts interact at relativistic speeds. The discussion also highlights the need for a deeper understanding of the principles of special relativity, which may not be fully grasped by all participants.

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I know there are a few threds already on this subject, but it seems to me that all of them require preknowlage on the subject busides a wikipedia search which only seems to tell you that If one twin leave Earth vie. space ship, and travels .99c to a Galaxy 2 light years away, turns around, and comes back to earth, around 4 years will have gone by for that person. But because he was moving at the speed of light, time affected him differently, and back on earth, 13 years have gone by.
Time is relative to speed, the faster you are going, the slower time is, the slower you are going, the faster time affects you. Speed is times medium, just like mass and tempter is sound and light’s medium.
It would not be possible thought to change your ‘internal clock’ by driving 90 mph down a highway, because compared to the speed of light 90 mph is really quite insignificant.
Or atlest that's what i got out of it.

basically what i want to know, and don't get, is WHY this happens, like what specifically is Earths time speed compaird to the speed of light? -which seems to me would solve the question, though I am not totally sure.

What happens to Distance at near the speed of light, because there is an object in space going the speed of light, wouldn't it creat a 'curve' space? this might not seems so relevant, but if your going at the speed of light, wouldn't distance become not so relevant, or somthing like that...I don't really know anymore, I've staired at the problem for so long .

And i would also like to understand the effects of traveling near c on mass.
would it become extreamly dence, or impload? uhh.

Well if someone would be willing to explain this to me as soon as posible, in the simplest turms posible, I'm only in 9th grade, so i don't have much - if any deep understading of physics.

-Thanks.
 
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basically what i want to know, and don't get, is WHY this happens, like what specifically is Earths time speed compaird to the speed of light? -which seems to me would solve the question, though I am not totally sure.
Since speed is relative, you can't make the comparison you are talking about.

What happens to Distance at near the speed of light, because there is an object in space going the speed of light, wouldn't it creat a 'curve' space? this might not seems so relevant, but if your going at the speed of light, wouldn't distance become not so relevant, or somthing like that...I don't really know anymore, I've staired at the problem for so long .
Distance along the direction you are going appears shorter in comparison to something not moving relative to the object you are looking at.

And i would also like to understand the effects of traveling near c on mass. would it become extreamly dence, or impload? uhh.
To the outside observer mass would increase. The moving object does not sense any mass increase.
 
If c is a universal constant for everybody and everywere, then two people traveling at different speeds would measure the speed of light to be c. But as one of them travels quicker than the other, time must be slower if he has to determine the same value for c.

What it is not known is why c is constant. It is just a theory that has been proven in a number of experiments. One of them: two atomic clocks have been traveling in oposite directions aboard Earth satellites. After some time, these clocks have shifted slightly as the relativity theory predicts, while total speed was high but far from c.

A corollary: time on Earth is different from time on faster or slower planets, as each planet is traveling at different speed through space.
 
regaldeath said:
I know there are a few threds already on this subject, but it seems to me that all of them require preknowlage on the subject busides a wikipedia search which only seems to tell you that If one twin leave Earth vie. space ship, and travels .99c to a Galaxy 2 light years away, turns around, and comes back to earth, around 4 years will have gone by for that person. But because he was moving at the speed of light, time affected him differently, and back on earth, 13 years have gone by.
The twins paradox is not really a paradox once you take the effect of acceleration into account.
regaldeath said:
Time is relative to speed, the faster you are going, the slower time is, the slower you are going, the faster time affects you.
Note that from your frame of reference time would not appear to slow down. It would only appear to slow down to other observers' frames of reference.
regaldeath said:
It would not be possible thought to change your ‘internal clock’ by driving 90 mph down a highway, because compared to the speed of light 90 mph is really quite insignificant.
Or atlest that's what i got out of it.
It wouldn't be possible because you will always be stationary in your reference frame, not because the speed you are traveling at is small compared to c.

Claude.
 

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