I Twin Paradox with radioactive twins

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The discussion focuses on the twin paradox applied to radioactive samples, where one sample remains on Earth while the other travels at high speed. The traveling sample exhibits a higher radioactivity due to time dilation affecting its half-life, leading to a discrepancy in the number of radioactive atoms between the two samples. Participants clarify that the half-life of particles like muons remains constant regardless of their motion, emphasizing the importance of using proper time in calculations. Misinterpretations regarding the relationship between coordinate time and proper time in the context of time dilation are addressed, with the conclusion that the formulas discussed are applicable across different frames of reference. Ultimately, the conversation reinforces the need for consistent use of time measurements to accurately predict outcomes in relativistic scenarios.
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PAllen said:
I’ve always considered that many muons are created at much lower altitude than 10 km, where the atmosphere is denser. However, looking at the density as a function of altitude, it does appear 10 km would be a reasonable median creation altitude. But there is also the question of muon energy. I think many are created with ##\gamma## greater than 5, some much greater (even over 100).
Actually, I just checked and found the average muon energy at creation is well over 4 GeV, which is a ##\gamma## of over 40. Thus, my statement was correct. For some reason, hyperphysics is using a plausible creation altitude, but a way too low energy. There are even substantial numbers of muons created with ##\gamma## of 40,000 or more.

[edit: as a further aside, I note that the cosmic ray muon spectrum is regularly measured out to 100 TEV, which corresponds to a ##\gamma## of 1 million. For such a muon, it would appear only 1 cm of atmosphere passed by before the ground hits.]
 
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PAllen said:
Actually, I just checked and found the average muon energy at creation is well over 4 GeV, which is a ##\gamma## of over 40. Thus, my statement was correct. For some reason, hyperphysics is using a plausible creation altitude, but a way too low energy. There are even substantial numbers of muons created with ##\gamma## of 40,000 or more.

[edit: as a further aside, I note that the cosmic ray muon spectrum is regularly measured out to 100 TEV, which corresponds to a ##\gamma## of 1 million. For such a muon, it would appear only 1 cm of atmosphere passed by before the ground hits.]
And this page of hyperphysics has the correct number - no idea why the muon experiment page uses misleading numbers:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Particles/muonatm.html
 

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