Two boxes sliding down a 20° ramp.

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The discussion revolves around calculating the time it takes for Box A to reach the bottom of a 20° ramp while considering the forces acting on both Box A and Box B. Box A has a mass of 3 kg and a coefficient of kinetic friction of 0.210, while Box B has a mass of 10.5 kg with a coefficient of kinetic friction of 0.170. The net forces acting on both boxes were calculated, with Box A experiencing a gravitational force of 10.0554 N and Box B 35.1939 N, alongside their respective frictional forces. The user successfully solved the problem but sought clarification on the net force and its application in determining the time for Box A to descend the ramp.

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Homework Statement


The figure shows two boxes, A and B, on a ramp. The ramp forms a 20° angle with the horizontal. Box A is in front of Box B and they are touching. Box A is 2 meters from the bottom of the ramp. The mass of A is 3 kg and the mass of B is 10.5 kg. The coefficient of kinetic friction for box A is .210 and the coefficient of kinetic friction for box B is 0.170.

How long will it take for A to reach the bottom of the ramp?

Homework Equations


F=ma
The kinematic equations
Force of Kinetic Friction=μ*n

No help needed! I solved it!

The Attempt at a Solution


I know that B is acting on A and A is acting on B. My problem is finding the net force between the two in the x direction. And then once I find that, I am having trouble finding an equation to use that will help me find how long it takes for A to reach the bottom.

I think that I might have found the correct net force but I'm not sure and I don't know what to do with that net force.

I've also drawn the two free body diagrams for the problem.

The Force that gravity exerts in the x direction on:
A=10.0554 N
B=35.1939 N
The force that the kinetic friction exerts in the x direction on:
A=-5.80166
B=-16.43804
 
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Can you show us your diagrams and work?
 
You can not know the force of interaction between the boxes, but you know that the force A exerts on B and the force B exerts on A are equal and opposite. Write the equation F=ma for both bodies, including the force of interaction between them (just use a symbol for it). Show the equations, please.

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