Two charges are placed at the corners of a square

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The problem involves two charges placed at the corners of a square, specifically a 4.0μC charge and a -6.0μC charge. The objective is to determine the charge needed at the intersection of the diagonals to achieve a zero potential difference at the two unoccupied corners.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the unknown charge at the center and suggest defining it as a variable. There are attempts to set up equations for the total potential and questions about the distances involved in the calculations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem by suggesting the use of variables for the unknown charge. There is also acknowledgment of confusion regarding the distances in the equations, indicating a productive exploration of the problem setup.

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Participants note the importance of correctly identifying the distances in the potential equations, which may affect the calculations. There is a mention of an upcoming exam, adding a time constraint to the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Two charges are placed at the corners of a square. One charge, 4.0μC, is fixed to one corner and another, -6.0μC, is fixed to the opposite corner. What charge would need to be placed at the intersection of the diagonals of the square in order to make the potential difference zero at each of the two unoccupied corners?


Homework Equations



V= kq /r

The Attempt at a Solution



Vtot = V1 + V2 + V3

but then i realized that 3rd charge is unknown where it is, i just don't know how i should approach this problem? help. =[
 
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hi remchu123! welcome to pf! :wink:
remchu123 said:
3rd charge is unknown where it is, i just don't know how i should approach this problem? help. =[

call the 3rd charge (the one in the centre) q, then proceed as usual …

show us what you get :smile:
 


remchu123 said:

Homework Statement


Two charges are placed at the corners of a square. One charge, 4.0μC, is fixed to one corner and another, -6.0μC, is fixed to the opposite corner. What charge would need to be placed at the intersection of the diagonals of the square in order to make the potential difference zero at each of the two unoccupied corners?

Homework Equations



V= kq /r

The Attempt at a Solution



Vtot = V1 + V2 + V3

but then i realized that 3rd charge is unknown where it is, i just don't know how i should approach this problem? help. =
Hello remchu123 . Welcome to PF !

That's why there are variables.

Let the charge at the center have a charge of Q or q.
 


V1 + V2 + V3 =0

kq1 /d + kq2 /d + kq3 /d (route)2 over 2= 0

then i solved for q3 and i got -2.8x 10^-6 C

but the answer is -1.4 x 10^-6C

which means i forgot half somewhere..

thanks though! i think i can handle it!

wish me luck in physics 12 exam tomorrow! ahha

i'll very likely need all of your "ki"s ( DBZ reference? lol)
 
hi hremchu123!:smile:

(btw, it's "root" not "route" :wink:)

you just got confused about the distance …

it's d/√2, not d√2 :wink:
 

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