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The discussion revolves around a problem from electrodynamics concerning the two-dimensional rotation matrix and its property of preserving the length of a vector. Participants are exploring the mathematical proof related to this property as presented in a textbook.

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  • One participant presents the problem statement and expresses difficulty in starting the proof.
  • Another participant provides a breakdown of the vector transformation equations resulting from the rotation matrix.
  • This participant expands the squared terms and suggests that certain terms will cancel out, hinting at a simplification that leads towards the proof.
  • Two participants point out a typographical error in the original post, correcting "perverse" to "preserve".

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The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps required to complete the proof, and there may be assumptions regarding the understanding of trigonometric identities and vector operations that are not explicitly stated.

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Dear Everybody,

I am trying to learn about the electrodynamics. I am using the textbook, Introduction to Electrodynamics (2nd Ed) by D. J. Griffiths. I am working on the Problem 1.8. The question state:

Prove that the two-dimensional rotation matrix perverse the length of A. (That is, show that $(A_y')^2+(A_z')^2=(A_y)^2+(A_z)^2$)

$\left(\begin{array}{cc} A_y'\\ A_z'\end{array}\right)$=$\left(\begin{array}{cc} cos(\phi) & sin(\phi)\\ -sin(\phi) & cos(\phi) \end{array} \right)$ $\left(\begin{array}{cc} A_y\\A_z\end{array}\right)$

I am struck at the beginning.
 
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Cbarker1 said:
Dear Everybody,

I am trying to learn about the electrodynamics. I am using the textbook, Introduction to Electrodynamics (2nd Ed) by D. J. Griffiths. I am working on the Problem 1.8. The question state:

Prove that the two-dimensional rotation matrix perverse the length of A. (That is, show that $(A_y')^2+(A_z')^2=(A_y)^2+(A_z)^2$)

$\left(\begin{array}{cc} A_y'\\ A_z'\end{array}\right)$=$\left(\begin{array}{cc} cos(\phi) & sin(\phi)\\ -sin(\phi) & cos(\phi) \end{array} \right)$ $\left(\begin{array}{cc} A_y\\A_z\end{array}\right)$

I am struck at the beginning.
From the vector equation you have
[math]A_{y'} = cos( \theta ) A_y + sin( \theta ) A_z[/math]
[math]A_{z'} = -sin( \theta ) A_y + cos( \theta ) A_z[/math]

So
[math](A_{y'})^2 + (A_{z'})^2 = \left ( cos( \theta ) A_y + sin( \theta ) A_z \right ) ^2 + \left ( -sin( \theta ) A_y + cos( \theta ) A_z \right ) ^2[/math]

Expand it out (it's not quite as bad as it looks) and you will get
[math](A_{y'})^2 + (A_{z'})^2 = \left ( sin^2 ( \theta ) + cos^2( \theta ) \right ) (A_{y})^2 + \left ( sin^2( \theta ) + cos^2 ( \theta ) \right ) (A_z)^2[/math]

(Hint: The terms in [math]A_y ~ A_z[/math] cancel out.)

Can you finish out the details?

-Dan
 
I hope you mean "preserve", not "perverse"!
 
Country Boy said:
I hope you mean "preserve", not "perverse"!
I meant to preserve.
 

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