Two-player card game, combined probability

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The discussion focuses on calculating the total number of possible deals in a two-player card game using a standard 52-card deck. Each player receives three cards but only uses two, discarding one without revealing it. The correct formula for determining the total number of deals is C(52,3) x C(49,3), which accounts for the combinations of cards each player can hold. The knowledge of the discarded card by one player does not alter the formula, as it remains valid regardless of what is known about the discarded cards.

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There is a card game where one player gets three cards and only uses two (the third one is discarded without showing to an opponenet), and the second player gets also three cards and uses only two, discarding the third card in the similar way - without showing.

I am trying to enumerate all possible deals, but stuck with the logic. Do I account for the mucked (the third cards) or not?

If I have a 52-card standard deck, the first players hands number would be C(52,3) and the second players number of hands would be C(49,3)? Thus the total number of the deals would be C(52,3)xC(49,3).

What if I am one of the players and know the third discarded card of mine, but don't know the discarded card of my opponent, will it affect the above-mentioned formula?
 
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If the disposed card is not chosen at random, then you should account for it - it will influence the distributions.
Lenus said:
Thus the total number of the deals would be C(52,3)xC(49,3).
Yes, if the two players are different.
Lenus said:
What if I am one of the players and know the third discarded card of mine, but don't know the discarded card of my opponent, will it affect the above-mentioned formula?
The formula is true independent of your knowledge. If you know some cards and some not, you can calculate how many different options are left - then your cards (including the disposed one - the opponent cannot have it) are relevant of course.
 
mfb

If the disposed card is not chosen at random, then you should account for it - it will influence the distributions.

The term "not chosen at random" was the key, thanks a lot!
 
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