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The discussion centers on calculating the frequency of red helium-neon laser light and determining the minimum angular speed of a Fizeau apparatus to measure the speed of light. The correct frequency calculation requires converting the wavelength from 632.8 nm to meters, resulting in 4.74e14 Hz. For the Fizeau experiment, the angular speed should be calculated using the correct conversion from revolutions per second to radians per second, yielding a final answer of 113.98 rad/s. Participants emphasize the importance of unit conversion and double-checking calculations to avoid errors.

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  • Understanding of wave equations, specifically v = λf
  • Knowledge of the speed of light in different media, particularly c = 2.9996e8 m/s in air
  • Familiarity with angular speed calculations and unit conversions
  • Basic principles of optics, including the Fizeau apparatus
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I worked through these and thought I had the right answer but apparently not... and honestly I have no idea why. I think I did everything right?

1. The wavelength of red helium-neon laser light in air is 632.8 nm. What is its frequency?

>> Well I know that v=lambda*f and that v=c/n. So I solved for v using v=c/n, where c=2.9996e8 and n=1.000293 (refraction of light in air). Solved for v and got 299872137.5. Then I solved for f using f=v/lambda and plugged in f=(299872137.5)/(6.328e11) <-- changed wavelength to m and got an answer of 4.739e-4.
How can this be wrong? I went back and tried the equations again, only this time I just used the wavelength as 632.8nm instead of converting. What am I doing wrong?


2. In an experiment to measure the speed of light using the apparatus of Fizeau, the distance between light source and mirror was 11.47 km and the wheel had 720 notches. The experimentally determined value of c was 2.996e8 m/s. Calculate the minimum angular speed of the wheel for this experiment to 4 significant figures. (Assume that the return ray is unblocked by the tooth).

>> I used two formulas: t=2d/c and w=angle/t. I used d as 11470 m, c as 2.996e8 m/s, and the angle as 1/1440 (doubled the 720 notches because there would be an additional 720 spaces). Plugged it all in and got 9.0655 rev/s, converted to rad/s and got 56.99. I think I am messing up with the angle I am supposed to be using... should it not be 1/1440?
 
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Kawrae said:
Then I solved for f using f=v/lambda and plugged in f=(299872137.5)/(6.328e11) <-- changed wavelength to m and got an answer of 4.739e-4.
How can this be wrong?
632.8 nm = 632.8e-9 m = (6.328e2)e-9=6.328e-7 m, not 6.328e11. The answer should be 4.74e14 Hz.
 


It's difficult to determine exactly where you may have gone wrong without seeing your work and calculations, but here are a few things to consider:

1. When solving for the frequency, you need to convert the wavelength from nanometers to meters before plugging it into the formula. So in your first calculation, you should have used 6.328e-7 m instead of 6.328e11 m.

2. In the second question, the angle should indeed be 1/1440, as you correctly calculated. However, when converting from revolutions per second to radians per second, you should be multiplying by 2*pi, not just pi. So the final answer should be 113.98 rad/s.

3. It's always a good idea to double check your calculations and make sure you are using the correct units. Sometimes small mistakes like using the wrong unit or forgetting to convert can lead to incorrect answers.

I hope this helps! If you are still unsure about your calculations, it may be helpful to go back and review the formulas and make sure you understand the concepts behind them. Good luck!
 

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