Two rigid bodies combined center of gravity

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The discussion revolves around finding the equation for the combined Center of Gravity (CoG) of two rigid bodies with different weights. Participants explore the relationship between weight, distance, and the CoG, particularly in the context of two squares with specified weights. The discussion touches on theoretical concepts and practical applications, including potential connections to real-world scenarios like tipping forklifts.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to understand how to calculate the CoG for two objects of different weights, specifically two squares weighing 40lbs and 600lbs.
  • Another participant suggests considering the straight line connecting the CoGs of the two items and finding a point where the product of mass and distance from the individual CoG is equal for both weights.
  • A participant introduces the analogy of a teeter-totter to explain the concept of balancing torques and moments, relating it to the CoG question.
  • There is a mention of a potential connection to a tipping forklift issue, indicating practical implications of the CoG calculation.
  • One participant expresses appreciation for the discussion and indicates they have obtained their answer, while also hoping others may benefit from the exchange.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the relevance of balancing torques in understanding the CoG, but no consensus is reached on a specific equation or method for calculating the CoG of the two objects. The discussion remains exploratory with multiple viewpoints presented.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve specific mathematical steps or assumptions regarding the calculation of CoG, and the relationship between weight and distance remains open to interpretation.

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Hello all. I'm trying to find the equation for combined Center of Gravity (CoG) when you combine two objects with different weight.

I know how to find the centroid, which is what the CoG would be if both objects were the same weight.

But what about two objects with different weight? For an example, I have two square with the area of x^2. Square A weights 40lbs and square B weights 600lbs. If I combined both squares, where would the CoG be?

I'm assuming the equation has something to do with density, distance of CoG at a specific point, and area invovled. Thanks for the help!
 
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Consider the straight line connecting the CoG's of the 2 items. Find a point on the line where mass times distance (from the individual CoG to that point) is the same for both weights.
 
co0ldood said:
Hello all. I'm trying to find the equation for combined Center of Gravity (CoG) when you combine two objects with different weight.

I know how to find the centroid, which is what the CoG would be if both objects were the same weight.

But what about two objects with different weight? For an example, I have two square with the area of x^2. Square A weights 40lbs and square B weights 600lbs. If I combined both squares, where would the CoG be?

I'm assuming the equation has something to do with density, distance of CoG at a specific point, and area invovled. Thanks for the help!

Is this related to the tipping forklift issue at work?

It would help if you could show us a diagram of what you are asking, but I'll take a try at some hints to help you out. Think of a teeter-totter -- it's balanced when the two weights at the ends are equal, right? Now what if the fulcrum were moved closer to the left weight? How would the two end weights have to be related in order to still balance?

The concept you use in the above question is "balancing the torques" or balancing the moments. Torque is force X distance. Do you see how balancing the two torques will make the teeter-totter balance? Can you see how this applies to your COG question?

BTW, I appreciate you mentioning in your other forklift thread that it's okay to move the thread to the Homework Help forums. The threads may still get moved, but I'll leave this here for now.
 
berkeman said:
Is this related to the tipping forklift issue at work?

It would help if you could show us a diagram of what you are asking, but I'll take a try at some hints to help you out. Think of a teeter-totter -- it's balanced when the two weights at the ends are equal, right? Now what if the fulcrum were moved closer to the left weight? How would the two end weights have to be related in order to still balance?

The concept you use in the above question is "balancing the torques" or balancing the moments. Torque is force X distance. Do you see how balancing the two torques will make the teeter-totter balance? Can you see how this applies to your COG question?

BTW, I appreciate you mentioning in your other forklift thread that it's okay to move the thread to the Homework Help forums. The threads may still get moved, but I'll leave this here for now.

Thanks mathman and berkeman. I see how it's related. I'm not sure why I didn't think of that. Must be late in the day!

BTW, good memory berkeman! I'm in transition in putting theory into practice and seeing how everything works out. I've already obtained my answer so hopefully someone else may learn something useful out of these scenarios.

I'm trying to be as broad as I can so I don't leak out anything I'm working on directly. Hope you undrestand! Thanks again.
 

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