Two spheres travelling in opposite directions collide

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The problem involves two spheres colliding while moving horizontally in opposite directions. The first sphere has a mass of 2m and a speed of 2u, while the second has a mass of m and a speed of 4u. The coefficient of restitution is given as (1/√3), and the spheres are positioned such that their centers are a distance r apart.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply conservation of momentum and the coefficient of restitution to analyze the collision. They express uncertainty about how to proceed after deriving an equation for v1 and question the relevance of the distance r between the centers of the spheres.
  • Some participants suggest that the first part of the question is more geometric or trigonometric in nature, recommending the drawing of a diagram to clarify the situation.
  • Another participant describes using trigonometry to determine the angle of 30° based on their diagram, indicating a successful application of geometric reasoning.

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The discussion has progressed with some participants providing guidance on the geometric aspects of the problem. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the relationship between the angle and the motion of the spheres. The original poster has made attempts to derive values for the speeds after impact, but the conversation remains open with further exploration of the implications of their findings.

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Participants note that the problem involves both physics and geometry, with some emphasizing the importance of visual representation in understanding the collision dynamics. The original poster's reference to the distance r between the centers of the spheres suggests that this may be a factor in their calculations, though it remains unclear how it directly influences the outcome.

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Homework Statement


Two spheres of radius r move horizontally in opposite directions. The first has mass 2m and speed 2u, the second has mass m and speed 4u. The coefficient of restitution is (1/√3). The centres of the two spheres lie on two parallel lines, a distance r apart.

(i) show that at the moment of impact, the line of centres of the spheres make an angle of 30° with their previous lines of motion.

(ii) find the speeds of the spheres after impact.


Homework Equations


conservation of momentum and coefficient of restitution


The Attempt at a Solution



the i axis is along the line of their centres at impact.
the j axis is vertical to the i axis.

∅ is angle with which the line of the centres of the spheres makes an angle with there previous lines of motion.(they are parallel)

there is no change in j.

(i)

conservation of momentum along the i axis.

2m(2ucos∅ ) + m(-4ucos∅) = 2m(v1) + m(v2)

0 = 2v1 + v2

v2 = -2v1

coefficient of restitution

( v1 -(-2v1) )/(2ucos∅ -( -4ucos∅ ) ) = 3v1/6ucos∅ = - 1/√3

simplify ...

v1 = (-2/√3)ucos∅

Im not exactly sure what to do from here I know that cosinverse(√3/2) = 30

so presumably I should be able to find v1 = u and cancel them.

Im guessing it has something to do with their centers being a distance r apart but I'm not exactly sure what to do with that information.
Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Question (i) is purely a geometry or trig question. No physics needed. Draw a diagram of the spheres at impact.
 
TSny said:
Question (i) is purely a geometry or trig question. No physics needed. Draw a diagram of the spheres at impact.
I drew a diagram of the two spheres at impact like you said. using the line between the centre of the spheres and the r distance between there centres i constructed a right angled triangle.I was able to use trig to figure out the angle was 30°.

for (ii) I subsituted the value of cos30 into.... v1 = (-2/√3)ucos∅

and figured out v1 = -u I Substituted this into the equation v2 = -2v1 which means v2 = 2u

since the j vector is the same before and after I used Pythagoras theorem for both spheres and figured out the j vector.

I then used Pythagoras theorem again and figured out there speeds after impact(the resultant vector of both the j and i components) were u√2 and u2√2

which according to the back of my book are the right answers so thanks for the help.
 
Good work.
 

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