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The discussion revolves around a wavefunction in momentum representation and its implications for probability density calculations in quantum mechanics. Participants explore the correctness of the wavefunction's formulation, particularly the role of the theta function, and the process of converting the momentum representation to the position representation using Fourier transforms.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the definition of the theta function in the wavefunction, suggesting it is incorrectly defined as zero everywhere in momentum space.
  • Another participant argues that the theta function is correctly defined, noting that θ(-p) is non-zero for negative p, leading to a valid wavefunction representation.
  • A participant expresses confusion regarding the cancellation of exponential terms when calculating the probability density from the momentum representation.
  • Several participants clarify that the Fourier transform should be applied to the wavefunction, not the probability, and provide the correct formulation for this transformation.
  • One participant reports that their integral vanishes, raising questions about the implications of a zero position representation and whether a Dirac delta function should be used instead of the exponential term.
  • Another participant asserts that the integral does not vanish, implying that there may be a misunderstanding in the calculations presented.

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Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the definition and implications of the theta function in the wavefunction. There is also contention about the results of the Fourier transform and whether the integral can yield a non-zero result.

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There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of the theta function and the conditions under which the Fourier transform is applied. The discussion also highlights potential misunderstandings in the integration process and the nature of the resulting wavefunction.

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Hi!

I would like to ask everyone's opinion about this wavefunction in the momentum representation:

ψ(p) = N[θ(-p)exp(ap/hbar) + θ(p)exp(-ap/hbar)], where N is a normalization constant, a > 0, and θ(p) is a function defined as θ(p) = 0 for p > 0 and also θ(p) = 0 for p < 0.

I think the θ function has been written incorrectly, right? It is just zero all over the momentum space.

What I did is I assume it to be a step function, replacing θ(p) = 0 for p > 0 with θ(p) = 1 for p > 0. Now, when calculating for the probability density of finding the particle at x, I used Fourier transform to do it. But to my surprise, the exponential terms were canceled and I am left with only dx in the integration. What do you think did I miss?

Thanks everyone and I am hoping for your suggestions!
 
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Thunder_Jet said:
Hi!

I would like to ask everyone's opinion about this wavefunction in the momentum representation:

ψ(p) = N[θ(-p)exp(ap/hbar) + θ(p)exp(-ap/hbar)], where N is a normalization constant, a > 0, and θ(p) is a function defined as θ(p) = 0 for p > 0 and also θ(p) = 0 for p < 0.

I think the θ function has been written incorrectly, right? It is just zero all over the momentum space.

What I did is I assume it to be a step function, replacing θ(p) = 0 for p > 0 with θ(p) = 1 for p > 0. Now, when calculating for the probability density of finding the particle at x, I used Fourier transform to do it. But to my surprise, the exponential terms were canceled and I am left with only dx in the integration. What do you think did I miss?

Thanks everyone and I am hoping for your suggestions!

Looks fine to me. [itex]\theta(-p)[/itex] is 1 when p is negative because of the minus sign, so the first term is non-zero when p < 0 and the second term is non-zero when p > 0. The whole thing could be written

[tex]\Psi(p) \propto \exp(-a|p|/\hbar)[/tex]
 
Mute said:
Looks fine to me. [itex]\theta(-p)[/itex] is 1 when p is negative because of the minus sign, so the first term is non-zero when p < 0 and the second term is non-zero when p > 0. The whole thing could be written

[tex]\Psi(p) \propto \exp(-a|p|/\hbar)[/tex]

Thanks for your suggestion. My problem now is on converting this momentum representation into its x representation. The probability density in x can be written as ∫<ψ(p)|x><x|ψ(p)> dx. Since I have here a complex conjugate of the Fourier transform term exp(ipx/hbar), those Fourier terms will just cancel (i.e., exp(-ipx/hbar)exp(ipx/hbar) is just 1). And there will be no integration anymore except ∫dx. What do you think of this?
 
To go from the momentum representation to the position representation you have to take the Fourier transform of the wave function, not the probability:

[tex]\psi(t,x)=\langle x|\psi \rangle=\int_{\mathbb{R}} \mathrm{d} p \langle x|p \rangle \langle p | \psi \rangle.[/tex]

Now you have (setting [itex]\hbar=1[/itex])

[tex]\langle x | p \rangle=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2 \pi}} \exp(\mathrm{i} p x).[/tex]

That means

[tex]\psi(t,x)=\int_{\mathbb{R}} \mathrm{d} p \frac{1}{\sqrt{2 \pi}} \exp(\mathrm{i} p x) \tilde{\psi}(t,p).[/tex]

In your case it's a quite simple integral. You just have to split the integration in the ranges [itex]p<0[/itex] and [itex]p>0[/itex] and just calculate the integral.
 
vanhees71 said:
To go from the momentum representation to the position representation you have to take the Fourier transform of the wave function, not the probability:

[tex]\psi(t,x)=\langle x|\psi \rangle=\int_{\mathbb{R}} \mathrm{d} p \langle x|p \rangle \langle p | \psi \rangle.[/tex]

Now you have (setting [itex]\hbar=1[/itex])

[tex]\langle x | p \rangle=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2 \pi}} \exp(\mathrm{i} p x).[/tex]

That means

[tex]\psi(t,x)=\int_{\mathbb{R}} \mathrm{d} p \frac{1}{\sqrt{2 \pi}} \exp(\mathrm{i} p x) \tilde{\psi}(t,p).[/tex]

In your case it's a quite simple integral. You just have to split the integration in the ranges [itex]p<0[/itex] and [itex]p>0[/itex] and just calculate the integral.
Thanks for the detailed note. I did it but it turns out that the total integral vanish! What does it implies when the position representation is zero? I am expecting to get a Gaussian like solution. Or do you think I need to use Dirac delta function here instead of the exp(ipx/hbar) term?
 
That integral does not vanish.
 

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