UK Physics Undergrad - does it matter which uni?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the considerations for selecting a university for studying physics in the UK, particularly focusing on the implications of university choice on future academic opportunities, such as pursuing a PhD. Participants explore the significance of university reputation, entry requirements, and the potential impact on postgraduate studies.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that while there are recognized 'good' and 'bad' universities, the specific choice may depend on the field of study and personal circumstances.
  • It is proposed that achieving good grades can allow entry into reputable universities, even if they are not considered elite institutions like Oxford or Cambridge.
  • Concerns are raised about whether attending a less prestigious university, such as Wolverhampton, could limit opportunities for PhD programs at more prestigious institutions like Warwick or Oxford.
  • Some participants argue that graduates from red brick universities generally have access to PhD programs at other red brick institutions, provided they achieve high academic standards.
  • There is mention of Leicester University having lower entry requirements despite its high ranking, leading to speculation about its appeal to prospective students.
  • Participants express differing opinions on which universities in the Midlands are best for physics, with suggestions including Birmingham, Nottingham, and Warwick.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the importance of university choice, with multiple competing views on how it affects future academic opportunities and the relevance of university reputation.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on assumptions about the academic landscape and the specific fields within physics, which may not be universally applicable. The discussion reflects a variety of personal experiences and perspectives regarding university selection.

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UK Physics Undergrad - does it matter which uni?

I'm want to study physics at uni next year and am still trying to decide which uni is best for me to go to. I want to stay in the West or East Midlands (family reasons).

1) Does it really matter which uni I go to, as long as i get good grades?

2) Does it limit my choices of where I could do a PhD afterwards? Do Wolverhampton graduates get to do PhD's at Warwick or Oxford?

I don't really want to take notice of snobbery, but if the rest of the world pays attention to it I'd be an idiot not to.

Cheers.
 
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1) There's an obvious collection of 'good places' and 'bad'. The difference between say Oxford and Cambridge will depend quite a bit on what you will be doing specifically, 6 of one, half a dozen of the other. There's an across the board difference between say Imperial and Aston. If you're looking at A's in the maths and sciences you'll get into a good university even if it's not Oxbridge.

2. Not really. Cambridge often tend to get many of their PhD students from within their own 4th years (particularly theoretical physics). Other universities get students from all over. I know people who did their undergrads at Bristol, Durham, Bath, Exeter, Imperial and obviously Oxbridge who now do theoretical physics PhDs. The less maths based stuff tends to be more open, there's no so much of a monopoly of Oxbridge and Durham graduates outside of theoretical physics, as is my impression. Theoretical physics just wants buckets of maths.
 


Hey Streeter. What grades are you expected at A-Level that will help you gain some idea, I am in a very similar position to yourself!
 


streeters said:
I'm want to study physics at uni next year and am still trying to decide which uni is best for me to go to. I want to stay in the West or East Midlands (family reasons).
Look at Birmingham, Nottingham, Warwick.

1) Does it really matter which uni I go to, as long as i get good grades?
Yes, but as Alphanumeric says, only to a point. If you aim to get into a red brick university, then it doesn't really matter which one.
2) Does it limit my choices of where I could do a PhD afterwards? Do Wolverhampton graduates get to do PhD's at Warwick or Oxford?
Again, if you graduate from a red brick university, then there's no reason you shouldn't get into one of the red brick PhD programmes (provided you get a first, or maybe a high 2:1). It all depends what specific field you want to go into, though.
 


Leicester University, is quite high in the rankings, but for some reason they ask for low entry grades. BBC, now I can't think of why that would be other than the fact that they can't get people to go there. If you get an A at A-Level you also get a £1000 bursary which again seems crazy. Warwick and Birmingham are probably the best Universities for physics in the Midlands, or at least that is my opinion.
 

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