Uncovering Hidden Objects: The Power of Diffraction

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the ability of an observer, positioned behind a sharp 90-degree corner, to reconstruct an image of an object illuminated by a full spectrum light source based on the diffracted light. The conversation touches on the implications of diffraction versus diffusion, ambient conditions, and the mechanisms used to collect information from the diffracted light.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how well an observer can reconstruct an image from diffracted light when hidden behind a corner.
  • Another participant humorously suggests that the observer could see as well as they do now, implying some level of visibility.
  • A participant introduces the idea that ambient conditions may affect visibility, referencing the mirage effect, although noting it has not been observed around a corner.
  • One contributor argues that the method of data collection significantly influences the information obtained, stating that using a mirror could yield more information than observing without instruments.
  • Another participant emphasizes that in a vacuum, no information could be gathered due to the lack of light diffusion.
  • A participant asserts that observing directly on the wall would yield no information because of the time required for the diffraction angle to develop.
  • Discussion includes a reference to one-slit diffraction, suggesting that the observer must reconstruct information from interference fringes, questioning the practicality of this reconstruction.
  • Another participant notes that the one-slit diffraction example, illuminated by a full-spectrum source, is analogous to the corner situation being discussed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effects of ambient conditions, the mechanisms of observation, and the implications of diffraction versus diffusion. No consensus is reached regarding the feasibility of reconstructing the object's image.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various conditions that could affect the outcome, such as the presence of a vacuum, the use of instruments, and the nature of the light source. These factors remain unresolved in the discussion.

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Take an object with well defined features, illuminated by a full spectrum source and located around a sharp, 90 degree vertical corner. How well can an observer hidden behind the corner from the object and at the same height reconstruct its image from the diffracted light?
 
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As well as I can see you now.
 
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To some extent, it might depend upon ambient conditions. Loren seems to be alluding to the mirage effect, which is very real. I've never heard of it working around a 90 degree bend, though.
 
I would say it's entirely dependent on the mechanism used to collect the data (the diffused light). For example, if the observer used a mirror, he could tell a lot about the object. If he used no instrument, he could tell nothing at all. If the experiment took place in a vacuum, he could tell nothing at all, because light doesn't diffuse in a vacuum.

In a perfectly dust-free "clean room", almost no data. In a smoke-filled bar, color and size perhaps (if the source of illumination were bright enough).
 
Folks,

Pardon, I was referring to diffraction than diffusion. Would that change your answers? Consider the phenomenon in vacuo.
 
If you are observing right on the wall, you would get no information whatsoever. This is because light takes a finite amount of time (and distance) for the diffraction angle to evolve from 0 to whatever the far-field diffraction angle may be.

Claude.
 
In one-slit diffraction, all interference fringes (with the information they represent) but one are not along a straight (classical) path from the light source, through the slit and to the screen. The same argument holds for a object, corner and observer.

All that remains is for the observer to reconstruct the information about the object from the fringes, but can it be done in practice? (Using some kind of Fourier transform?)
 
Remember that this one-slit example is illuminated by a full-spectrum source. The interference displayed on the screen arises from those wavelengths interacting with the geometry of the slit itself. This experiment, as explained above, is analogous to the "corner" situation.
 

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