Uncovering the Meissner Effect: Clarifications Needed

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The discussion centers on the Meissner effect, specifically seeking clarifications regarding its applicability to different types of materials, the nature of magnetic flux expulsion, and the feasibility of conducting magnetic levitation experiments with superconductors and ferromagnetic materials. The scope includes theoretical understanding and conceptual clarifications.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the Meissner effect is applicable only to diamagnetic substances or if it also applies to ferromagnetic materials like iron.
  • There is uncertainty regarding the meaning of magnetic flux expulsion in diamagnetic substances, particularly given their low permeability.
  • One participant suggests that a magnetic levitation experiment using a super-cooled ferromagnetic material is not possible, referencing Earnshaw's theorem, while noting that ordinary diamagnetic materials can be levitated in an inhomogeneous magnetic field.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on whether magnetic flux can penetrate a diamagnetic metal as it does in ferromagnetic or paramagnetic materials, and what mechanisms are involved in the flux expulsion process.
  • A later reply indicates that in normal diamagnets, the magnetic flux inside is lower than the external field, while in superconductors, the field is completely expelled due to surface currents.

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Participants express differing views on the applicability of the Meissner effect to various materials, the nature of magnetic flux in diamagnetic substances, and the feasibility of magnetic levitation experiments. The discussion remains unresolved on several points.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the permeability of diamagnetic substances and the conditions under which superconductivity occurs. The discussion also touches on the geometric factors influencing magnetic flux behavior.

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I need clarifications on Meissner effect.


1. According to this theory, when any diamagnetic substance is cooled below its critical temperature, it becomes a superconductor and it expels magnetic flux from inside. Is it applicable only to a diamagnetic substance or ferromagnetic substances like iron also?

2. Expulsion of magnetic field means 'removal of the mag flux from inside the material to the outside'. Here a point which I could not understand is that since the permeability of a diamagnetic substance is almost negligible, already no magnetic flux could have penetrated into it. Then what does it mean that it 'expels' the magnetic flux present inside it?

3. Can a 'magnetic levitation experiment' be conducted by placing a magnet on a super-cooled ferromagnetic material such as iron or steel?
 
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ananthu said:
I need clarifications on Meissner effect.


1. According to this theory, when any diamagnetic substance is cooled below its critical temperature, it becomes a superconductor and it expels magnetic flux from inside. Is it applicable only to a diamagnetic substance or ferromagnetic substances like iron also?

2. Expulsion of magnetic field means 'removal of the mag flux from inside the material to the outside'. Here a point which I could not understand is that since the permeability of a diamagnetic substance is almost negligible, already no magnetic flux could have penetrated into it. Then what does it mean that it 'expels' the magnetic flux present inside it?

3. Can a 'magnetic levitation experiment' be conducted by placing a magnet on a super-cooled ferromagnetic material such as iron or steel?

ad 1: The vast majority of diamagnetic substances doesn't get superconducting on cooling. For substances to get superconducting, they have to be metallic although not all metals get superconducting. Also paramagnetic metals can get superconducting. However, ferromagnetic metals usually don't get superconducting, although there are some exceptions.
ad 2: The permeability is not negligible, it is nearly 1 for most diamagnetic substances.
ad 3: No, there is a theorem showing that this is not possible:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earnshaw's_theorem
However, it is possible to levitate ordinary diamagnetic materials in an inhomogeneous magnetic field. You can buy ready kits containing magnets and graphite to demonstrate this effect. With stronger fields you can even levitate frogs:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_levitation
 
Thank you DrDu. What I want to know is whether magnetic flux will pass through a diamagnetic metal as it passes with ease in a ferro or para magnetic material, since the permeability of a dia is too low when compared to a ferro. Because in many illustrations the first diagram shows penetration of magnetic flux through the specimen placed in the magnetic filed under normal temp, and the second figure shows the expulsion of the same from the specimen while it it is cooled to become a superconductor.

Also I what to know what mechanism is involved in the above expulsion process. Your explanations on these lines will be appreciated.
 
In a normal diamagnet, the flux inside the specimen is somewhat lower (of the order of ##\mu_r-1##, depending e.g. on the geometry of the sample) than the external field.
I a superconductor all of the field will be expelled due to surface currents whose magnetic field compensates the external one.
 

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