Understand Einstein & Lorentz: E=mc2 & ϒ Formula

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The discussion focuses on the relationship between Einstein's E=mc² and Lorentz's factor γ, questioning why they are not combined to further demonstrate the light-speed barrier. It is noted that both equations stem from the same principles of special relativity, meaning combining them does not yield new insights about the light-speed limit. E=mc² applies specifically to particles at rest, where γ equals 1, indicating that the equation is not applicable for moving particles without modification. The conversation also touches on the need for credible resources discussing tachyons, highlighting a broader interest in advanced concepts in temporal physics. Overall, the discussion emphasizes the foundational nature of these equations in understanding relativistic physics.
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I am hoping someone can help me with something. I want to go into the field of temporal physics and I was wondering if someone could help me understand why Einstein's E=mc2 isn't combined with Lorentz's factor ϒ=1/√1-(v2/c2) to further prove the light-speed barrier?
 
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Jorlack said:
I was wondering if someone could help me understand why Einstein's E=mc2 isn't combined with Lorentz's factor ϒ=1/√1-(v2/c2) to further prove the light-speed barrier?

Both of these relationships are derived from the same underlying assumptions (the two postulates of special relativity - Google for "On the electrodynamics of moving bodies" to find Einstein's 1905 paper on SR) as the light-speed limit. Thus, using them to "further prove" the lightspeed limit doesn't tell us anything new; it just shows that the assumptions that lead to the light-speed limit lead to the light-speed limit.
 
Also the relation E=mc^2 is already given at a certain Reference fram (the rest frame of the object of mass m ). So how would you put a gamma factor?
 
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Nugatory said:
Both of these relationships are derived from the same underlying assumptions (the two postulates of special relativity - Google for "On the electrodynamics of moving bodies" to find Einstein's 1905 paper on SR) as the light-speed limit. Thus, using them to "further prove" the lightspeed limit doesn't tell us anything new; it just shows that the assumptions that lead to the light-speed limit lead to the light-speed limit.
Thank you for the reference, Nugatory. Also, could you recommend any books or sights that are credited and discus the possibility of Tachyons?
 
Jorlack, you are right. One way of writing the energy equation is
##E=\gamma m c^2##
The common equation ##E=mc^2## is only valid for particles at rest, when ##\gamma = 1##.
 
Khashishi said:
Jorlack, you are right. One way of writing the energy equation is
##E=\gamma m c^2##
The common equation ##E=mc^2## is only valid for particles at rest, when ##\gamma = 1##.
##\gamma = 1## when the velocity of the said object or particle is 0. Therefore the Lorentz factor would equal ##1/1## or simply, 1.
 
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