Understanding Ax = x cos(angle) and Ay = y sin(angle) in Physics

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The discussion centers around the formulas Ax = x cos(angle) and Ay = y sin(angle), which are used to determine the x and y components of a vector in physics. Participants explore the underlying concepts, applications, and the role of trigonometry in understanding these formulas.

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  • Some participants explain that the formulas are essential for converting vector quantities into their respective components, which simplifies mathematical operations like vector addition.
  • One participant notes that many physical quantities, such as velocity and force, are vector quantities that require both magnitude and direction for proper representation.
  • A participant mentions the importance of trigonometry in understanding these formulas and suggests that knowledge of basic trigonometric functions is necessary to grasp the concepts fully.
  • Another participant provides a brief derivation of the formulas using the definitions of sine and cosine in the context of a right triangle.

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Participants generally agree on the importance of the formulas for understanding vector components, but there is no consensus on the level of trigonometric knowledge required, as one participant expresses limited familiarity with trigonometry.

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Some participants assume a basic understanding of trigonometry, which may not be the case for all contributors, potentially limiting the discussion's accessibility to those unfamiliar with these concepts.

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In physics we use the formulas Ax = x cos(angle) and Ay = y sin(angle) to find the x or y component of a vector. How do these formulas work, and what all can they be used for?
 
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Scheuerf said:
In physics we use the formulas Ax = x cos(angle) and Ay = y sin(angle) to find the x or y component of a vector. How do these formulas work, and what all can they be used for?

Have you studied trigonometry?
 
I'm taking my first year of high school physics and algebra/trig this year so I don't know too much about trigonometry as of now.
 
Many physical quantities have both a magnitude and a direction: velocity, acceleration, force, momentum, etc. We call these vector quantities. In everyday language it's most natural to describe them using the magnitude and either one angle (for two-dimensional motion) or two angles (for three-dimensional motion). However, many mathematical operations (like adding two vectors) are easier if you use x- and y- (and possibly z-) components. So you spend a lot of time in intro physics courses learning how to convert between magnitude+angle(s) and components. That's where the trigonometry comes in.

If you need something to supplement your textbook for the mathematical details, try this:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/vect.html

It does assume that you already know basic trig stuff like the definitions of sine and cosine.
 
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If your question is related to basic trig:
Given a right triangle...

sin(angle) = opposite_length / hypotenuse_length
so, multiplying both side by hypotenuse_length gives us:
opposite_length = hypotenuse * sin(angle)
Thus, Ay = A sin(angle)

Similarly,
cos(angle) = adjacent / hypotenuse_length
so, multiplying both side by hypotenuse_length gives us:
adjacent_length = hypotenuse_length * cos(angle)
Thus, Ax =A cos(angle)

In many physics problems you'll find that the hypotenuse_length is represented by velocity or force.

Here is couple more google links 1, 2, ...
 
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