Understanding BJT Switching: Output Waveform with 1Kohm Resistor | BJT as Switch

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The discussion revolves around understanding the output voltage waveform of a BJT (Bipolar Junction Transistor) when used as a switch, particularly focusing on the effects of a 1Kohm resistor and a 15V DC supply. Participants explore the implications of these components on the waveform observed on an oscilloscope, as well as the role of a capacitor in the circuit.

Discussion Character

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the expected shape of the output voltage waveform ("Vce") on an oscilloscope with and without the 1Kohm resistor.
  • Another participant mentions that the DC supply is necessary for biasing the transistor and questions its effect on the output voltage.
  • There is a suggestion that the transistor can either draw current from the 15V supply or stop current flow, depending on its state.
  • A participant discusses the concept of reactance of a capacitor at a given frequency and its potential impact on the circuit.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the purpose of the DC supply and its influence on the output voltage waveform, seeking clarification on the observed shapes of the output voltage.
  • Another participant explains that removing the 1Kohm resistor might imply replacing it with a wire, affecting the voltage divider formed by the transistor and the resistor.
  • It is noted that the voltage gain of the transistor is influenced by the load resistance, with higher load resistance leading to higher gain.
  • Participants discuss the effect of adding a capacitor across a resistor in the circuit and how this alters the frequency response, emphasizing the need to calculate the reactance of the capacitor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the operation of the BJT and the effects of circuit components. There is no consensus on the specific output waveform shape or the complete implications of the 15V supply and the capacitor's role.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in their understanding of transistor operation and circuit analysis, particularly in the context of their experimental observations. There are unresolved questions regarding the exact output voltage shapes and the theoretical underpinnings of the discussed concepts.

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hello everyone ...I'm new here and I have so many questions need to be answered ! so I will be really really really thankful if you help :)

what should be the out put voltage waveform shape on the Oscilloscope "Vce" , when the 1Kohm resistor inserted and when it's not ...
the BJT as switch.doc (37.0 KB)

I made this experiment but I'm not sure about what I came up with !
can anyone explain to me what is the effect of the 15v DC & the function generator on the output signal & should I consider 1 Micro Farad capacitor to be an open circuit ??!

The square wave function generator gives input signal with Vpp = 2v & 1KHZ

need your help as soon as possible
thanx in advance :)
 

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yusra eng said:
hello everyone ...I'm new here and I have so many questions need to be answered ! so I will be really really really thankful if you help :)

what should be the out put voltage waveform shape on the Oscilloscope "Vce" , when the 1Kohm resistor inserted and when it's not ...
the BJT as switch.doc (37.0 KB)

I made this experiment but I'm not sure about what I came up with !
can anyone explain to me what is the effect of the 15v DC & the function generator on the output signal & should I consider 1 Micro Farad capacitor to be an open circuit ??!

The square wave function generator gives input signal with Vpp = 2v & 1KHZ

need your help as soon as possible
thanx in advance :)

can anyone explain to me what is the effect of the 15v DC
This is a pretty sure signal that you have not yet studied transistors.
The transistor can draw current from this 15 volt supply, or it can stop current flowing.
Do you know what controls this current?

The device on the output is an oscilloscope, which let's you watch the output as a waveform on a screen. In this case, it is a dual trace oscilloscope, so it let's you watch the input and the output at the same time.

You can work out the REACTANCE of a capacitor at any frequency. In this case, you know the frequency and the capacitance, so you can estimate the effect such a capacitor would have at that frequency.
Have a look here :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_reactance
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Beware that the C is in Farads.
 
well , unfortunately I studied transistors before but it's my first time for being in Electronic Lab & I realized that I don't have that much information , almost nothing !


I'm a little bit confused , I know that DC supply is for biasing the transistor to work either in Active , cut-off , or Saturation mode...by locating the Q-point on the DC load line

but is this the only aim for using it !? and what's it's effect on the output voltage ?!

for example , I got these shapes for the output voltage ...and I'm not really sure about why they shaped on this way !

can you help me with this please ?!
 

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I can't see anything in the second image except the room lights and a flat line.

When they said to remove the 1 K resistor, maybe they meant to replace it with a piece of wire.

It is best to regard the transistor as a device whose resistance can be changed. So, if you put another resistor in series with it from the power supply, the two will form a voltage divider.

If the transistor is behaving like a low resistance, most of the supply voltage (your 15 volts) will appear across the series resistor. If it is behaving like a high resistance, most of the supply voltage will appear across the transistor.

So, if the power supply wasn't there, none of this could happen. The transistor would always have zero volts across it.
If you break the circuit, no current could flow, so none of this could happen.

Voltage gain is output signal voltage / input signal voltage.

For a given transistor, the voltage gain depends on the load resistance. The higher the load resistor, the higher the gain.
So, if you have a pair of resistors in series as the load resistance, and measure the gain, the output will reduce if you put a capacitor across one of them.

This effect will be different at different frequencies.
At higher frequencies, the capacitor will have more effect. That is why you have to work out the reactance of the capacitor and compare it with the resistance of the resistor you are putting it across.
Then you can estimate what effect this capacitor will have on the overall frequency response.
 

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