Understanding Bode Plots for Second Order Systems with ς‚= 0

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The discussion focuses on understanding Bode plots for the transfer function g(s) = 1/(s² + 4), specifically the phase plot behavior for a second-order system with a damping ratio (ς) of 0. The user correctly calculated the magnitude plot but encountered confusion regarding the phase plot, observing a transition from -360° to -180° at the corner frequency of 2 rad/s in MATLAB. It is established that each pole contributes a -90° phase shift, resulting in a total of -180° for the two poles, which explains the observed phase behavior.

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hey guys,

i have a question regarding bode plot

g(s)= 1/(s2+4)

i did get the magnitude plot correct but i am unable to understand the phase plot. by calculating on paper i got 0° but in MATLAB it changes from -360° to -180°

i haven't understood how the initial phase is -360 which changed to -180 at the corner frequency(2)

please explain. i would really appreciate if you could explain me how to draw the phase plot for second order system with ς‚= 0

thank you in advance
 
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-360 degrees is equal to 0!

Typically each pole will add a 90 degrees phase shift that begins 1 decade before the pole and ends one decade after. Since there are two poles the phase shift will be 180 degrees
 
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