Understanding Charge Density in Spherical Distributions: ρ=dQ(r)/dV(r)

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The discussion revolves around understanding the concept of charge density in spherical charge distributions, specifically the relationship between charge density (ρ), total charge (Q), and volume (V). Participants are exploring why charge density is defined as the derivative of charge with respect to volume rather than a simple ratio.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants question the definitions and relationships between charge density, total charge, and volume. They explore whether integrating charge density or using a ratio of total charge to volume yields the same results.

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The discussion is active, with participants raising questions about the definitions and implications of charge density. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of infinitesimal quantities in these contexts, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of using derivatives versus simple ratios in the context of charge distributions, highlighting a potential misunderstanding of the foundational concepts involved.

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Let's say you have a sphere which has a charge distribution where the charge behind a radius r can be expressed as Q(r). You also have the volume formula for a sphere, V(r).

Why is ρ, the charge density, defined as: ρ=dQ(r)/dV(r) instead of simply ρ=Q(r)/V(r)?
 
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By integrating the density over some volume, you should get the total charge in that volume. Which of the two expressions satisfies that?
 
Why can't you just integrate ρ(r) over a volume, with ρ(r) = Q(r)/V(r)?
 
Is ## \int \rho(r) dV = \int \frac {Q(r)} {V(r) } dV ## equal to Q? What about ## \int \rho(r) dV = \int \frac {dQ(r)} {dV(r) } dV ##?
 
I see it now. In the future, am i always supposed to use infinetesimal amounts for stuff like this?
 
It is hard to tell what you mean by "stuff like this", buy generally densities and concentrations are derivatives of some quantity with regard to volume (or mass), so that their integrals over some volume (or mass) restore the original quantity. If in doubt, just use this check.
 

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