Understanding Cross Product Derivatives for Vector Functions

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of a cross product involving vector functions, specifically the expression \([(a + t * b) x (a + t * b + t^{2} * c)]\). The original poster expresses confusion regarding the connection between this problem and a similar one they have already solved, which involves the derivative of \([(a + t * b) x (c + t * d)]\).

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the cross product rule and properties such as anti-commutativity and distributivity. The original poster questions how the two problems relate and why their approaches yield different results.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on applying the cross product rule and have referenced properties of the cross product. The original poster has acknowledged this input, indicating a level of engagement with the suggestions made.

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The original poster is working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can provide or the methods they can use. There is also an implied need for clarity on the relationship between the two problems presented.

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hi all.

my homework question is what is the derivative of:

[(a + t * b) x (a + t * b + t^(2) * c)]

a, b, and c are vectors, and t is a constant. * is multipy, ^(2) is squared, and x is cross product.

i've been working on it for hours and i have no idea what to do.

there's another similar problem which i have the answer to. it asks to find the derivative of:

[(a + t * b) x (c + t * d)]

it has the same specs, with d being another vector.

the answer to this one is:

(a x d) + (b x c) + 2t(b x d)

i just don't see how these connect and can actually be equivalent.

help would be ridiculously appreciated.
 
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You have a (cross) product there. So you should use the (cross) product rule.
 
First, the product rule, for cross product: (uxv)'= uxv'+ u'xv.

Second, cross product is anti-commutative: uxv= -vxu and, in particular, uxu= 0.
Finally, cross product is distributive: ux(v+ w)= uxv+ uxw (though is it NOT associative).

Look at your second, simpler, problem: [(a + t * b) x (c + t * d)] '
= (a+ tb)' x(c+ td)+ (a+tb)x(c+ td)'= bx(c+td)+ (a+tb)x(d)= bxc+ t(bxd)+ axd+ t(bxd)= axd+ bxc+ 2t(bxd).
 
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ok thank you so much you two.
 

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