Understanding Formula Transition: Solving for curlB and divJ in Electromagnetism

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The discussion revolves around the transition between two integral equations in electromagnetism, specifically relating to the concepts of curl and divergence in the context of magnetic fields and current density.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to understand how to derive the expression for curlB from the given integral equations. There are questions about the correctness of LaTeX formatting and its impact on displaying the equations properly.

Discussion Status

Some participants are providing guidance on LaTeX usage to ensure proper formatting of the equations. There is an ongoing exploration of the mathematical principles involved, particularly Stokes' theorem, but no consensus on the derivation has been reached.

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Participants are facing challenges with LaTeX formatting, which is affecting the clarity of the equations presented. The original poster's question remains open as they seek assistance in understanding the transition between the equations.

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[tex]\oint Bdl=\mu\int JdA+\mu\frac{{d}}{dt}\int EdA[/tex]

[tex]\int(curlB)dA=\mu\int divJdV+\mu\frac{{d}}{dt}\int divEdV[/tex]

how to go from the above integral equation to the bottom equation

[tex] <br /> curlB=\mu\varepsilon\frac{{dE}}{dt}+\mu J<br /> [/tex]
 
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I think there are something wrong with your LaTeX-codes.
 
nhrock3 said:
[tex]\oint Bdl=\mu\int JdA+\mu\frac{{d}}{dt}\int EdA[/tex]

[tex]\int(curlB)dA=\mu\int divJdV+\mu\frac{{d}}{dt}\int divEdV[/tex]

how to go from the above integral equation to the bottom equation

[tex] <br /> curlB=\mu\varepsilon\frac{{dE}}{dt}+\mu J<br /> [/tex]
Try using [tex]and[/tex] instead of [tex]and[/tex].

RGV
 
nhrock3 said:
[tex]\oint Bdl=\mu\int JdA+\mu\frac{{d}}{dt}\int EdA[/tex]

[tex]\int(curlB)dA=\mu\int divJdV+\mu\frac{{d}}{dt}\int divEdV[/tex]

how to go from the above integral equation to the bottom equation

[tex] <br /> curlB=\mu\varepsilon\frac{{dE}}{dt}+\mu J<br /> [/tex]
Looks to me like an application of Stoke's curl theorem:
[tex]\int_S \nabla\times F dS= \oint_{\partial S} F\cdot ds[/tex]
 
Ray Vickson said:
Try using [tex]and[/tex] instead of [tex]and[/tex].

RGV
What Ray wrote was [ tex] and [ /tex], but without the extra space inside each pair of brackets. In other words, don't use upper case (TEX); use lower lower case (tex).
 
i tried i switched to
[tex]\oint Bdl=\mu\int JdA+\mu\frac{{d}}{dt}\int EdA[/tex]

[tex]\int(curlB)dA=\mu\int divJdV+\mu\frac{{d}}{dt}\int divEdV[/tex]

how to go from the above integral equation to the bottom equation

[tex] <br /> curlB=\mu\varepsilon\frac{{dE}}{dt}+\mu J<br /> [/tex]

still no formula showing
 
Ray Vickson said:
Try using [tex]and[/tex] instead of [tex]and[/tex].

RGV
This should have said "[tex]" and "[/tex]" instead of [tex]and[/tex].
I guess the first part was dropped because I forgot to put the "[tex]" in<br /> quotes. So, that means that you remove the quotes when you use them.<br /> <br /> RGV[/tex]
 
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AArgh! This still has not gotten through. I mean
use "[ t - e - x]" and "[ / t - e - x ]" (removing spaces and
hyphens, or course). Let's see if *this* gets through.

RGV
 
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i uploaded a photo could you help with my question
Arrggg :)
 

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