Understanding laser power terminology

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LIDAR systems commonly utilize lasers in the millijoule range, with 25 millijoules being a typical value. This amount translates to 25 milliwatts over one second, which seems low compared to inexpensive laser diodes. However, LIDAR lasers operate with pulsed outputs, resulting in high peak power; for example, a 25 mJ pulse delivered in 2 nanoseconds equates to a peak power of 12.5 megawatts. The discussion clarifies that average power differs significantly from peak power, depending on pulse duration and frequency. Understanding these distinctions is crucial for grasping the costs associated with LIDAR technology.
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I see that many LIDAR systems use power in the millijoule range in atmospheric research. A typical number is 25 millijoules. 25 millijoules is equal to 25 milliwatt/seconds. This means 25 milliwatts for one second. This seems like a tiny amount of power, yet a 25 millijoule laser costs many thousands of dollars. This does not make sense as you can buy a 25 milliwatt laser diode that will easily run for one second and it costs just a few dollars.
What is the difference?
 
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pyroartist said:
I see that many LIDAR systems use power in the millijoule range in atmospheric research. A typical number is 25 millijoules. 25 millijoules is equal to 25 milliwatt/seconds.

do you have a link or two to that so we can see what you are referring to and to make sure you are interpreting it correctly :smile:
 
pyroartist said:
What is the difference?
I suspect the difference is in the LI vs the DAR.
 
LIDARS use pulsed lasers. The shorter the pulse, the better the spatial resolution. Since a typical pulse may last a few nanoseconds the peak power is quite large. For example, if the 25 mJ are delivered in a 2 ns pulse, the average power is about 12.5 MW. The 25 mJ aren't delivered in one second but in a very short time, that's why a simple laser diode isn't up to the task.
 
Thank you Gordianus for a serious answer! How did you compute 12.5 megaWatts from 25 millijoules? What is the formula to convert joules to watts.
For example, what is the power of a 100 Watt laser pulsed for 100 nanoseconds? 10 mJ. ?
 
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pyroartist said:
25 millijoules is equal to 25 milliwatt/seconds. This means 25 milliwatts for one second.
For the frst sentence you mean 25 millijoules is equal to 25 milliwatt second.
The formula to convert joules to watts is 1 Watt = 1 Joule / second

So: a 25 mJ, 1 nanosecond wide pulse each second represents a peak power of 25 MW (big M means Mega, 1000000 -- small m means milli, 1/1000) but an average power of 25 mW.
 
pyroartist said:
what is the power of a 100 Watt laser pulsed for 100 nanoseconds? 10 mJ.
Insufficient information:
  1. if it fires 1000 times per second, you would get 1000 times a much average power as when it fires once per second.
  2. you don't say whether it is average 100 W or peak 100 W
If you call a 100 W laser a 100 W laser, its power is 100 W, isn't it :smile:

Now, suppose it's 100 W peak and it fires one 100 ns wide pulse once per second. Average power is then
100 W * 100 ns = ##10^2 * 100 \times 10^{-9} = 10^{-5} ## W = 0.01 mW.
 
BvU, so how many Joules is that? I think it is the same answer: 10 uJ. Is that correct?
 
Per pulse you get 10 ##\mu##J, yes. And 10 ##\mu##J per second is 10 ##\mu##W
 
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OK, got in now. Watts X pulse length = Joules If more than one pulse per second then multiply Joules X number of pulses per second to get total energy.
Thanks..
 
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