Understanding Laws for O(x^n) Objects | Tailor Series Question

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The discussion revolves around understanding the Taylor series and the implications of big O notation, specifically O(x^n) objects. The original poster is attempting to construct the Taylor series for certain functions and is encountering issues related to the powers of x in their series expansion.

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  • Participants discuss the construction of Taylor series, the significance of terms in relation to big O notation, and the implications of including higher-order terms. Questions arise about the correctness of the original poster's statements and the fundamental understanding of Taylor series.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's attempts and questioning the validity of their reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the importance of understanding the fundamentals of Taylor series before attempting complex manipulations.

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There are concerns about the original poster's understanding of the Taylor series and big O notation, particularly regarding the treatment of terms beyond the specified power in the problem. The original poster has been advised to clarify their mathematical background to facilitate more targeted assistance.

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Your very first statement is wrong. The Taylor's (not "tailor") series for ln(1+ x) is NOT alternating. You also write x^3/3= 2x^3/6= 2x^3/3! and x^4/4= 6x^2/(4*6)= 6x^4/4! and then, for some reason, drop the "2" and "6" in the numerator in the next line.
 
What power do I need to open up the series to, because I have an x^5 term, which contradicts O(x^4)

Do you actually know what O(x^4) means? If you do, that problem is extremely easy.
 
besides those mistakes with the numenator numbers
i tried to build the tailor series of both function from scrach
where did i go wronge in the process
 
No offense but lately it seems you've been trying to use and do a lot of things with Taylor series, but you should really learn the fundamentals first. Taking Taylor series 'from scratch' involves taking derivatives, making bounds on the remainder etc etc. What you are doing is basically badly manipulating series. Tell us what mathematics you know and what you want to know, and we'll tell you what you need to learn to fill in the gaps.
 
ok,
as i showed in the link

first i tried to build the series of each function

till x^4 power(thats what was given in the question )
i made 4 derivatives of each function
and built a series by making f(0)+f'(0)x +(f''(0)x^2)/2+(f'''(0)x^2)/6 +(f''''(0)x^2)/24 +o(x^4)

then the lan series needed to be multiplied by x
so i increased by 1 the power of each object in the lan series except the remainder

and now i substituted each object in the e^t series with the series on the lan
i have built

the problem is
i was tald to build till the 4th power
but by making the x multiplication previosly i got x^5 object

also i was told that the expresion i got after the substitution
doesnt need to be opened by the formula formula (a+b)^2
but we only wright the object which are defined bellow the power of the remainder
we right objects which are in the power of 4 or less

this is my knowledge about this question
where did i get it wronge?
 
my problem is with x^5 object that i got

my dilema is

either to develop the series to the grade for which
even after making the multiplication by x it won't go over x^4
but in this case after the multiplication
the o(x^4) changes to o(x^5)

the other way is to delete the x^5
because our question asks us for series till the 4th power

but here again the o(x^4) changes to o(x^5) after multiplication by x

??
 

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