Understanding Light: Frequency vs Wavelength in Different Mediums

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of light as it transitions between different media, specifically focusing on the relationship between frequency and wavelength. Participants explore whether frequency, wavelength, or both change when light moves from one medium to another, considering both theoretical and experimental perspectives.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that frequency changes when light moves between media.
  • Another participant argues that wavelength changes instead, using an analogy of cars entering a tunnel to illustrate the concept of constant frequency despite changing speed.
  • A third participant asserts that frequency remains unchanged, while wavelength changes according to the equation λ = nλ', where n is the index of refraction.
  • A request for theoretical or experimental proof regarding the change in wavelength is made.
  • Some participants express agreement with the idea that wavelength changes, but with varying degrees of certainty.
  • Another participant emphasizes the continuity of the wave function at the boundary between two media, stating that frequency must remain the same to avoid discontinuity.
  • Mathematical relationships involving the velocity of light and refractive indices are presented to support claims about wavelength and frequency.
  • A participant points out that a ratio of two refractive indices should be considered in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether frequency or wavelength changes when light transitions between media. Multiple competing views are presented, with some arguing for wavelength change and others for frequency change.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference mathematical relationships and analogies to support their claims, but the discussion includes unresolved assumptions and lacks definitive experimental proof for the claims made.

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Hi..when light goes from one medium to other medium (like air to glass or glass to air) its velocity changes(either increases or decreases)..if velocity is changing then frequency or wavelength should also be changing..i want to know which one changes..frequency or wavelength or both...
I think frequency changes..is this correct..
 
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nope, wavelength. *shrug*... I guess I could explain in more detail. Say cars enter a tunnel at a frequency of one per second. At some point, assume the traffic speed decreases (perhaps there is a highly visible radar trap): there must still be one car per second passing that point, otherwise the cars would keep piling up (until no more could fit into the tunnel), so the *length* between cars must decrease there..
 
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No, the frequency f and hence the energy hf remain unchanged. The wavelength change is simply

[tex]\lambda[/tex] = n[tex]\lambda[/tex]'

where
n is the index of refraction
[tex]\lambda[/tex]' is the wavelength in the medium
 
are there any theoretical or experimental proof that only wavelength changes when light goes from one medium to other medium?
 
I agree with the wavelength changing, however I would not bet my life on it.
 
The frequency has to be the same on both sides of the boundary between two media because the wave function has to be continuous at all times, that is, it can't "jump" discontinuously as it crosses the boundary.

For a classical analogue, consider a wave traveling down a stretched string which is fastened to a thick rope at one end. The speeds of the wave are different along the string and the rope. The string just before the junction has to oscillate at the same frequency as the rope just after the junction, in order for the string and the rope to stay connected at the junction.
 
Helios said:
No, the frequency f and hence the energy hf remain unchanged. The wavelength change is simply

[tex]\lambda[/tex] = n[tex]\lambda[/tex]'

where
n is the index of refraction
[tex]\lambda[/tex]' is the wavelength in the medium


Any mathematical or theoretical derivation you have for the relation above...
 
Let v be the velocity of light in the medium

n = [tex]\frac{c}{v}[/tex] = [tex]\frac{f\lambda}{v}[/tex] = [tex]\frac{\lambda}{\lambda'}[/tex]
 
Strictly, Helios, you should have a ratio of two refractive indices there.
 

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