Understanding Negative Pressure: Myth or Reality in Gases and Liquids?

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The discussion centers on the concept of negative pressure in gases and liquids, with participants debating the validity of Wikipedia's claims regarding negative absolute pressure. It is established that negative absolute pressure does not exist in gases, but some scenarios, such as the transpiration pull in plants, demonstrate negative gauge pressure in liquids. The Casimir effect is mentioned as a phenomenon that can create attractive forces, sometimes referred to as 'vacuum pressure.' The consensus is that while negative absolute pressure is a myth in gases, liquids can exhibit tension under specific conditions, although this is generally not accepted in fluid mechanics.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of fluid mechanics principles, particularly pressure and tension.
  • Familiarity with the concepts of gauge pressure and absolute pressure.
  • Knowledge of intermolecular forces, including van der Waals forces.
  • Awareness of phenomena such as the Casimir effect and transpiration pull in plants.
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  • Research the role of van der Waals forces in fluid dynamics.
  • Study the implications of the Casimir effect in quantum physics.
  • Explore the mechanics of transpiration in plants and its relation to negative gauge pressure.
  • Examine authoritative texts on fluid mechanics, such as "Fluid Mechanics" by Streeter, Wylie, and Bedford.
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Students and professionals in physics, fluid mechanics, and engineering, particularly those interested in the behavior of gases and liquids under varying pressure conditions.

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stewartcs said:
Cavitation doesn't explain it. In fact, it would contradict it since when the pressure of the liquid drops below the vapor pressure, boiling of the liquid would occur. If the liquid is now vaporized you certainly can't say it supporting a tensile stress.

CS

I could have been unclear- I am referring to the *nucleation* of a bubble, not it's growth. Nucleation occurs via tunneling through a high-energy barrier (which is significantly lowered when there is dissolved gas or contaminants), and that energy barrier represents the tensile strength.

http://pof.aip.org/resource/1/pfldas/v12/i9/p1775_s1?isAuthorized=no
http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2002/2001WR000282.shtml
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/la100268q
 
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