Understanding Rate Mechanisms: Exam Preparation Tips

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding rate mechanisms in chemical reactions, particularly in the context of exam preparation. Participants explore various aspects of rate determining steps, molecularity, and the implications of concentration changes on reaction rates.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a three-step mechanism for the formation of carbonyl chloride and questions the molecularity of the rate determining step, suggesting it is bimolecular based on a multiple-choice exam.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the slow step is the rate determining step and notes that the order of reactants can be inferred from changes in concentration and reaction rates.
  • There is a discussion about the activation energy associated with the slow step, with one participant explaining that it is difficult for molecules to collide effectively in this step.
  • Participants analyze the implications of doubling the concentration of reactants A and B on the reaction rate, concluding that A is second order and B is zero order based on the observed rate changes.
  • One participant expresses difficulty in grasping the concepts from the textbook and seeks additional understanding and clarification.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the slow step is the rate determining step, but there is uncertainty regarding how to identify it without explicit information. Multiple viewpoints on the interpretation of reaction orders and mechanisms are presented, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved in some aspects.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the need for logical reasoning when the rate determining step is not specified, highlighting the potential for varying interpretations based on different mechanisms and assumptions about molecular interactions.

Who May Find This Useful

Students preparing for exams in chemistry, particularly those focusing on kinetics and reaction mechanisms, may find this discussion relevant.

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I totally can't figure out rate mechanisms for whatever reason.

A three-step mechanism has been suggest for the formations of carbonyl chloride:
Step 1 Cl2 -> 2 Cl(fast, equilibrium)
Step 2 Cl + CO -> COCl (fast equilibrium)
Step 3 COCl + Cl2 -> COCl2 + Cl (slow)
What is the molecularity of the rate determining step?

Here since it was multiple choice, I guess bimolecular & got it right, but have no reason why...

Here is another
When the concentration of A is doubled, the rate for the reaction: 2 A + B-> 2 C quadruples. When the concentration of B is doubled the rate remains the same. Which mechanism below is consistent with the experiment observations?
The answer is (it was multiple choice, but I'll just post the correct answer)
Step 1: 2A -> D (slow)
Step 2: B + D -> E (fast)
Step 3: E-> 2 C (fast)

So any ideas regarding how I can better understand the concepts so I don't get slammed for the exam?
 
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1. Which is the rate determining "step"? The fast or slow step?

2. Well, from the 2nd sentence, we now know that B is 0 order.

That's really all I can help you with. I haven't studied this in a while, wait for Chemistree or someone else to respond.
 
Slow step is the rate determining step. Suppose though that I wasn't told which one was slow or fast. It seems like such a simple concept... just can't seem to grasp it from the textbook.
 
i think you will be told about it. the slow step is the one having the higher activation energy. it is difficult for the molecules to collide effectively to form products...

if you are not told which step i sthe rate determining step, I'm afraid you will have to use logic...

step 1 involves homolysis of Cl2. this is quite easy... you can use UV,...
step 2 involves addition of Cl to CO. CO is linear, the Cl can add from behind the O atom.
step 3 though, involves the addition of another Cl atom. this time the highly electronegative O and Cl repels it. the Cl must have enough energy to reach the carbon and from a covalent bond with it. hence this is a slow step.

i think the question will state which step is slow or fast.
 
for 1. step 3 involves 2 molecules, Cl and COCl... it should be bimolecular.

for 2. with respect to A, the rate is 2nd order (rate quadruples when A doubles). and with respect to B, it is 0 order (no change to rate when B doubles).

then, the rate determining step involves only A.

step with A is slow. but step with B is fast.

hope it helps, I'm also doing kinetics at school right now.
 

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