Understanding Rigid Body Rotation: Solving Problem 4A and B from a Physics Exam

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The discussion revolves around understanding rigid body rotation, specifically focusing on problems 4A and B from a physics exam. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the moment of inertia calculations for a person modeled as a cylinder and the inclusion of the arms in the analysis.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to clarify the derivation of the moment of inertia terms, questioning the source of specific components in the equations. Participants discuss the implications of different configurations of the arms and the axis of rotation.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's questions, providing insights into the moment of inertia for different arm positions. There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and assumptions related to the problem, though no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the distinction between the variables M and m, which may indicate different masses in the problem setup. The discussion also highlights the importance of the axis of rotation in determining the moment of inertia.

Kenneth Dirk
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I am trying to solve problem number 4 part A and B from (http://people.physics.tamu.edu/kamon/teaching/phys218/exam/2003C/2003C_Exam3_Solution.pdf) but I am confused about certain aspects of it.

In part A, I understand that since we are considering the person as a cylinder, the equation for moment of inertia will include (1/2)MR^2. What I can't seem to understand is where did 2MR^2 come from and why we didn't include the moment of inertia of the arm(which is a rod).

In part B, I understand the rest of the moment of inertia equation but I am confused where did m(1l/2 + R)^2 come from?
 
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Hello Ken, :welcome:

Please use the template and the superscript/subscript buttons. See guidelines
Apparently you have a question on moment of inertia. So isolate that problem and state it. Show the relevant equations.

And note that the solution does make a difference between M and m -- as you do not.
 
Kenneth Dirk said:
What I can't seem to understand is where did 2MR^2 come from and why we didn't include the moment of inertia of the arm(which is a rod).
The 2mR^2 is the moment of inertia of the arms -- when they are hanging down, not outstretched. (Note: m, not M.)

Kenneth Dirk said:
In part B, I understand the rest of the moment of inertia equation but I am confused where did m(1l/2 + R)^2 come from?
Here the arms are outstretched. Note that the axis of rotation is the center of the person, not the shoulder.
 
Doc Al said:
The 2mR^2 is the moment of inertia of the arms -- when they are hanging down, not outstretched. (Note: m, not M.)Here the arms are outstretched. Note that the axis of rotation is the center of the person, not the shoulder.
Giving it away, eh ? not PF ! Well, let's say Ken has beginner's credit :wink:
 
BvU said:
Giving it away, eh ? not PF !
:wink:

BvU said:
Well, let's say Ken has beginners credit
First one's free! :smile:
 
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