Understanding single slit interference

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on understanding single slit interference, specifically seeking explanations that do not rely on the Huygens-Fresnel principle. Participants explore various interpretations and mathematical approaches to the phenomenon, touching on both conceptual and technical aspects.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in understanding single slit interference without the Huygens-Fresnel principle, questioning what the diffracted wave interferes with.
  • Another participant compares light interference to water and sound waves, suggesting that they all obey the wave equation despite different physical processes.
  • A third participant discusses the electromagnetic wave equation, noting that light propagation can be interpreted as oscillations driving each other, emphasizing that this is an interpretative matter rather than a definitive explanation.
  • A repeated inquiry highlights the need for mathematical understanding, suggesting that the integration of contributions from elements across the slit width is essential for grasping diffraction patterns.
  • One participant mentions the Feynman approach as an alternative perspective, indicating that it may require some effort to understand.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a preferred explanation for single slit interference. Multiple interpretations and approaches are presented, indicating ongoing debate and exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Some participants emphasize the importance of mathematical frameworks, such as integration and summation, in understanding diffraction and interference, while others focus on conceptual interpretations. The discussion reflects a range of assumptions and interpretations regarding wave behavior.

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I was just wondering if anyone was aware of a good explanation or physical cause of single slit interference that doesn't involve the Huygens-Fresnel principle. To me, the principle is not very intuitive, light does not eminate from other light (as far as I know). I think I understand that the wave bends at the boundaries of a single slit, but I do not understand what the diffracted wave interferes with.
 
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It works just like water waves ... or sound waves. They all have different physical processes, but they all obey the wave equation.

The Huyghens' wavelets are a geometric "mechanism" for waves which explains the most common wave phenomena.
 
You say light does not emanate from other light, but that's a matter of interpretation. In the electromagnetic wave equation, a magnetic oscillation drives an electric oscillation which drives a magnetic oscillation. So, light at any point propagates to nearby points. Again, this is just an interpretation, since all we are sure about is the math, not the interpretation.
 
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I was just wondering if anyone was aware of a good explanation or physical cause of single slit interference that doesn't involve the Huygens-Fresnel principle. To me, the principle is not very intuitive, light does not eminate from other light (as far as I know). I think I understand that the wave bends at the boundaries of a single slit, but I do not understand what the diffracted wave interferes with.

If you think of the word "interference" as applying to two or more ideal, point sources, this gives the simplest analysis of a wave situation in two dimensions (I.e. Young's slits). It's a special case of Diffraction and the Maths involves a straightforward Summation of finite elements (sources all over the Internet - to suit the individual reader). To get an idea of this subject, I think it is at least necessary to understand the Maths of two slit interference. Without the maths (geometry, at least) of the situation, I can't think of any way of understanding what's happening.

The word Diffraction applies to a real case where you can have extended sized sources. In that situation, you can treat the source as an infinite set of point sources and this involves Integration. A single slit diffraction pattern can be calculated by integrating the effect of contributions from elements across the slit width. You either need to accept it or learn about the integration process.

Whenever you see a real two slit pattern, what you are seeing is the result of two (broad) diffraction patterns, due to the individual slit widths, multiplied by the ideal (fine) interference pattern, due to the spaced sources. This is a very handy approach as it works perfectly in many cases and saves computation time and effort. (It's a Variable Separable problem)
 

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