Understanding Social Surplus in Economics for Beginners

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Social surplus refers to the total welfare gained by society from the consumption of goods and services, calculated as the value of these goods and services minus their production costs. It is distinct from private surplus, which measures utility from market transactions. Countries like the US and China utilize social surplus differently based on their ownership regimes and political processes. For instance, investments in national security can create a sense of safety, contributing to social surplus by providing value that exceeds the costs of those investments. The discussion clarifies that social surplus is not synonymous with public surplus, as the latter typically refers to financial accounting within the public sector. Social surplus encompasses broader societal benefits, including those from public goods and externalities, which are not captured in private surplus. The conversation highlights the complexity of these economic concepts and suggests consulting an instructor for visual aids to enhance understanding.
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I'm in first-year business school, and am taking economics for the first time. I'm not too clear on what exactly a social surplus is? Can anyone explain using simple examples, just so that I may have this clarified? Thanx
 
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Loosely, private surplus is value minus price; social surplus is value minus cost.
 
Back to the basics. Theoretically, what is a social surplus? I mean, how do countries like the US and China use it (if they even do) to there advantage?
 
It is the value of all goods and services produced or bought, minus the cost of producing or purchasing them. The composition of social surplus is determined largely through a country's ownership regime, its regulations, and its political process.
 
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So how would a country's usage of a social surplus, let's say China vs. US, differ? Would they both use it for military purposes?
 
Social surplus is the amount of welfare (value or utility) that a society has gained from the present consumption of all goods and services produced or bought. It is not something that can be used like money or resources. Example: national security is a type of welfare because it allows people to feel secure about their life and property. So if a country has been investing in her military, the part of her social surplus that military investment has produced is a sense of being secure and confident about the present and the future. In this context, "surplus" means "the value placed on a feeling of being secure, minus the cost of investment that has been made to bring about that feeling." It is as if the society had determined (e.g. through a political process) that a feeling of being secure is worth 10 million hours of "productive work." And, the cost of providing this secure feeling takes only 2 million hours of work. The social surplus is then 10 - 2 = 8 million hours of work that the society was ready to do but didn't have to.

But you may be using the term "surplus" in a different context. If so please clarify.
 
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EnumaElish said:
Loosely, private surplus is value minus price; social surplus is value minus cost.
Is social surplus synonymous with public surplus?
 
Smurf said:
Is social surplus synonymous with public surplus?
No. Public [sector] surplus relates to the public (as opposed to private) sector, and normally means an accounting surplus or a surplus in terms of resources similar to a budget surplus. Social surplus is also counterposed against private surplus, but in a different context. Private surplus is a measure of the total utility realized through market transactions. But not all utility is realized via market transactions. Examples are externalities and public goods. As a result, part of the surplus that is enjoyed by the society as a whole is not captured by private surplus If economic externalities or public goods did not exist, then social surplus would have been identical to private surplus (= producer surplus + consumer surplus).

P.S. This suprecedes my first post under this thread.
 
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... I think I'll just ask my instructor. (he has graphs)
 
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Good idea, "a picture is worth 1,000 words."

But bear in mind that "words are cheap." :smile:
 

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