Understanding Standing Waves: Clarity on Conditions

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The discussion revolves around the conditions necessary for the formation of standing waves, particularly focusing on the requirements of amplitude, phase, frequency, and velocity of the interfering waves. Participants express confusion due to varying explanations found in different textbooks.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the necessary conditions for standing waves, questioning the need for equal amplitude, phase alignment, and frequency. Some seek clarification on the concept of waves being "in phase temporally" and whether standing waves can be formed with a constant phase difference between two waves.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants actively seeking clarification on specific terms and concepts. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the conditions for standing waves, and some guidance has been offered, though no consensus has been reached.

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Participants note discrepancies in textbook explanations regarding the conditions for standing waves, indicating a potential lack of clarity in the definitions or assumptions presented in various sources.

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Sir,
I have some doubts regarding standing waves. Can anyone who is online now clear my doubts?
For the production of standing waves should the 2 interfering waves have the same amplitude, should they be in phase, should they have the same frequency and velocity? I have this doubt because each book states different conditions.
 
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The modes of vibration associated with resonance in extended objects like strings and air columns have characteristic patterns called standing waves. These standing wave modes arise from the combination of reflection and interference such that the reflected waves interfere constructively with the incident waves. An important part of the condition for this constructive interference for stretched strings is the fact that the waves change phase upon reflection from a fixed end. Under these conditions, the medium appears to vibrate in segments or regions and the fact that these vibrations are made up of traveling waves is not apparent - hence the term "standing wave".
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/Hbase/waves/standw.html

The amplitude need not be the same, but the wavelengths (frequency) would be, so this also infers the same wave velocity, since the interfering waves must be in phase temporally.
 
Sir,
I didn’t understand one thing. You said that the waves will be in phase temporarily. Could u please explain it in detail? Also,can standing waves be produced by the interference of 2 waves of same frequency moving in opposite directions having a constant phase difference? If Yes,will this initial phase difference be maintained always?
 
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This java applet could be of some help too.

http://www.walter-fendt.de/ph14e/stwaverefl.htm
 
You said that the waves will be in phase temporarily
No, I said "the waves will be in phase temporally". Temporally is an adverb meaning with respect to time, or in time.

Standing waves must be in phase, inedependent of time, which means that they must have the same wavelength AND speed.
 

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