Understanding the Breakdown of Path Integrals in Peskin

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the justification for splitting a functional integral into separate integrals over two quantum fields, as presented in equation 9.16 of Peskin's text. Participants explore the implications of this breakdown in the context of path integrals, focusing on the integration over intermediate configurations and boundary conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the justification for breaking up the functional integral, specifically why integration over intermediate configurations is necessary despite only having endpoint constraints.
  • Another participant suggests that the essence of a path integral is to sum over all possible configurations between fixed initial and final states, implying that this includes paths that deviate from the classical path.
  • A third participant interprets the equation as stating that the integral over all field configurations without constraints is equivalent to the integral over configurations with boundary conditions, although they do not have the text for reference.
  • One participant expresses gratitude for the explanations and indicates a desire to further understand the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the original question, with some providing insights into the nature of path integrals while others seek clarification. No consensus is reached on the justification for the breakdown of the integral.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the need for further reading on functional integrals, suggesting that additional resources may provide more clarity on the topic.

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Hello

I am trying to follow how one can define a correlation function of two quantum fields using Path integrals.

I have stumbled on equation 9.16 in Peskin, where they states that the functional integral can be split into:

\int D \phi(x) = \int D\phi _1 (\vec{x}) \int D \phi _2 (\vec{x} ) \int _{\substack{\phi (x_1^0, \vec{x}) = \phi _1 (\vec{x} ) \\\phi (x_2^0, \vec{x}) = \phi _2 (\vec{x} )}} D \phi (x)

I was wondering how one can justify this break up? It is only an endpoint constraint imposed, but why do we have to integrate over the intermediate configurations?

Any additional insight or reading tips will be very welcomed! :-)
 
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I'm not quite sure whether I understand your question correctly, but... isn't that the idea of a path integral?
We know the initial and final configurations, but not what happens in between. So we sum over all the possible configurations that lie between. For a point particle, for example, we fix the initial and final positions A and B but we must integrate over all possible paths that the particle could have taken to get from A to B. This includes paths very far from the classical path, which will on average cancel each other out because of the peculiar form of the integrand. So in effect, we're considering mainly configurations close to the classical one.
 
I'm not sure I understand the question either. I don't have Peskin with me at the moment but as I read the equation it simply states that

the integral over all possible field configurations (without constraints) = the integral over all possible field configurations with all possible boundary conditions.

As for reading tips: Negele-Orland Quantum Many-Particle Systems has some very nice technical discussions about functional integrals.
 
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Well thank your for your explanations, I will try to digest this :-)
 

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