Understanding the Charge to Mass Ratio of a Singly Ionized Benzene Molecule

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The discussion revolves around understanding the charge to mass ratio of a singly ionized benzene molecule, specifically interpreting the given value and its components.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the definitions of charge and mass in the context of the problem, questioning the meaning of the charge to mass ratio and how it relates to the provided numerical value.

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Some participants have clarified the definitions of charge and mass, while others are still seeking to understand the significance of the large numerical value provided. There is a recognition of the relationship between charge and mass in the context of the problem.

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There is mention of the atomic mass unit and its conversion to kilograms, as well as the fundamental charge associated with a proton. Participants express uncertainty about the source of the large number and its relevance to the problem.

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Just having trouble determining what they mean by "The charge to mass ratio for a singly ionized benzene molecule is e/(78u)=1235712.07908557C/kg."


For this, what would be the charge and what would be the mass?
 
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The single charge is a fundamental charge (equal to that on a proton, since 'singly ionized' means that the molecule has lost a single electron). The mass unit is an amu: atomic mass unit, also known as a dalton. Equivalent to 1.660538921 x 10-27 kg.
 
gneill said:
The single charge is a fundamental charge (equal to that on a proton, since 'singly ionized' means that the molecule has lost a single electron). The mass unit is an amu: atomic mass unit, also known as a dalton. Equivalent to 1.660538921 x 10-27 kg.

I see. So to clarify q = 1.602 x 10-19 & m = 78*u = 1.295 x 10-25?
 
Alouette said:
I see. So to clarify q = 1.602 x 10-19 & m = 78*u = 1.295 x 10-25?

Those are the numbers.
 
But where does that large given number come in?
 
Alouette said:
But where does that large given number come in?

I have no more information than what you stated in the first post. Where did you get the number, and in what context?
 
Ah well I figured it out, what they mean is e/m = charge to mass ratio. The context doesn't add much to figuring out what it means however, it just sets up the question.

As in every time e/m is encountered for the rest of the question, 1.26 x 106 (the long number of C/kg units) would be its value, which makes sense since it is asking for charge over mass. Kind of tricky too though...

I had initially thought we needed to find the individual values of q and m, which is why I asked where the large number came into play. Thanks for the info about amu though!
 
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