Understanding the Curl Theorem: Examples and Explanation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the curl theorem in vector calculus, specifically addressing the conditions under which a vector field is considered conservative. Participants explore the definitions of terms such as "defined on all R^3" and "continuous partial derivatives," and they analyze a specific vector field example to determine its conservativeness.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested, Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the meaning of "defined on all R^3" and "continuous partial derivatives" in the context of the curl theorem.
  • Another participant explains that "defined on all R^3" means the vector field must be defined at every point in R^3, including the origin, and must have continuous partial derivatives at those points.
  • A participant identifies that the vector field in question is not defined at the origin, which is critical for it to be considered conservative.
  • It is noted that the vector field's domain is R^3 minus the origin, which means it does not meet the criteria for being conservative as per the theorem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the vector field in question is not defined at the origin, which affects its status as a conservative vector field. However, the implications of this on the application of the curl theorem are explored without reaching a consensus on broader interpretations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the importance of the domain of the vector field in relation to the curl theorem, particularly the necessity for the field to be defined at all points in R^3, including the origin.

Who May Find This Useful

Students preparing for exams in vector calculus or those interested in the properties of vector fields and the curl theorem.

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Hi, this is a very simple question about the curl theorem. It says in my book:

" If F is a vector field defined on all R3 whose component functions have continuous partial derivatives and curl F = 0 , then F is a conservative vector field"

I might sound stupid, but what exactly does "defined on all R3" and "continuous partial derivatives" mean? Can you also provide examples?

I tried to apply it to a problem:

If Curl <0, z/(z^2 + y^2) , -y/(z^2+y^2) > = 0 , is the vector field conservative?

The answer is no. Can anyone explain why its not conservative.
It is continuously differentiable, and curl F = 0. To me, it appears to satisfy the criteria of the theorem.

Please help, i have a midterm tomorrow.
 
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Defined on all R^3 means that it is defined on all points of R^3, in particular it is defined in the origin of a coordinate system on R^3, namely in the point (0,0,0) and moreover, it must have continuous partial derivatives at any point of R^3, particularly in (0,0,0).

Question: Is your vector defined all over R^3 ?
 
I see. The vector is not R3 because its not defined at the origin because of the j and k components. Correct?
 
It's not defined in the origin, indeed. Its domain is simply R^3 -\{(0,0,0)\}, so it doesn't fulfil the definition you had there.
 
dextercioby, you are god.
thank you so much
 

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