Meaning of Curl from stokes' theorem

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the interpretation of the curl of a vector field in the context of Stokes' theorem, exploring how it can be explained similarly to divergence. Participants examine the relationship between circulation and curl, as well as the implications of shear in relation to these concepts.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that divergence can be defined through Gauss' theorem and seeks a similar explanation for curl using Stokes' theorem.
  • Another participant references external materials that may provide additional insights into the topic.
  • It is proposed that the total shear in a region is related to the circulation of the field around the boundary of that region.
  • A later reply cautions that the absence of shear does not necessarily imply the absence of curl, introducing the concept of viscosity as a potential factor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between shear and curl, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved regarding how to fully explain curl in the context of Stokes' theorem.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the definitions and implications of curl and shear, and there are unresolved assumptions regarding the role of viscosity in this context.

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Divergence can be defined as the net outward flux per unit volume and can be explained using Gauss' theorem. (I read this in Feynman lectures Vol. 2)
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In the next page, He derives Stokes' theorem using small squares.
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The left side of equation represents the total circulation of a vector field along a closed path S.
The right side contains the component of Curl perpendicular to ##\Delta a##
This only gives meaning to a particular component of Curl. How can I explain Curl using stokes' theorem just like how divergence is explained?
 
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http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/mathematics/18-02sc-multivariable-calculus-fall-2010/4.-triple-integrals-and-surface-integrals-in-3-space/part-c-line-integrals-and-stokes-theorem/session-90-curl-in-3d/MIT18_02SC_MNotes_v4.3.pdf and find this longer one
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So the total shear in a region R is related to the circulation of the field about the boundary of R.
 
Yes, but be careful: no shear doesn't have to mean no curl. There is the viscosity somewhere in between and that can be zero (in theory).
 
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