Understanding the Laplace System of Equations for Initial Value Problems

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The discussion revolves around solving an initial value problem involving a system of differential equations represented in the Laplace transform domain. The equations describe the dynamics of two variables, x and y, with specified initial conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the transformation of the system of equations into the Laplace domain and express confusion about the elimination of variables in the equations. There are attempts to clarify the algebraic manipulation needed to isolate X(s) and Y(s).

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing algebraic insights and alternative notations to clarify the relationships between the variables. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach to present the equations, indicating a variety of perspectives on notation and clarity.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the original poster may find the notation confusing, suggesting that clearer representations of the system could aid understanding. There is also a mention of the preference for brevity in notation by one participant.

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Homework Statement



Solve the initial value problem

| x'=x+y
| y'=-x+y

x(0)=y(0)=1

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The Attempt at a Solution



This is actually a solved problem with a too many details missing. You have to set up the equation as

| sX(s)-x(0)=X(s)+Y(s)
| sY(s)-y(0)= -X(s)+Y(s)

The next step is then to solve for X and Y respectively and the book jumps to

| X(s)=s/((s-1)^2+1)
| Y(s)=(s-2)/((s-1)^2 +1)

How did they do this? Where did the Y(s) go in the first line of the system and where did the X(s) go in the second line of the system? I'm not clear how they got rid of those variables.
 
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From the first equations you get (and be aware of the notation X(s)=X):
X(s-1) - 1 = Y
Y(s-1) = 1 - X

So by using basic algebra (solving a system of linear equations), you'll get to the next step.
Note that the reason why we transform the equation is because it is way easier to solve an algebraic problem than it is to solve a system of differential equations.
 
Wingeer said:
From the first equations you get (and be aware of the notation X(s)=X):
X(s-1) - 1 = Y
Y(s-1) = 1 - X

So by using basic algebra (solving a system of linear equations), you'll get to the next step.
Note that the reason why we transform the equation is because it is way easier to solve an algebraic problem than it is to solve a system of differential equations.

I would think given the nature of the question, that notation would confuse the poster. Better to write the system:

(s-1)X(s) - Y(s) = 1

X(s) + (s-1)Y(s) = 1

Two equations in the two unknowns X(s) and Y(s).
 
Perhaps, but as I am lazy of nature I prefer the shortest notation. :-)
 

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