Understanding the Laplace Transform: Derivation of n!/(s-a)^(n+1) for t^n*e^(at)

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion centers around the derivation of the Laplace transform for the function \( t^n e^{at} \), specifically how it leads to the expression \( \frac{n!}{(s - a)^{n+1}} \). Participants are exploring the integration techniques involved in this derivation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using integration by parts to derive the Laplace transform, with some questioning how the exponential term \( e^{(s-a)t} \) can be simplified or eliminated through this process. Others suggest breaking the problem into parts or using induction as an alternative approach.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with various participants offering insights into the integration process and the use of induction. Some have provided partial derivations, while others are still grappling with the steps involved in eliminating the exponential term.

Contextual Notes

There is a specific instruction for participants to derive the Laplace transform using integration by parts, which influences the direction of the discussion. Additionally, the assumption that \( n \) is a non-negative integer is present in the context of the problem.

Tony11235
Messages
254
Reaction score
0
laplace transform

Could anyone should me how it is you arrive to [tex]\frac{n!}{(s - a)^{n+1}}[/tex] as being the laplace transform of [tex]t^n e^{at}[/tex] ? Or at least provide a link?
I've done integration by parts but the term [tex]e^{(s-a)t}[/tex] will not go away.
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
If n is an integer the [tex]e^{(a-s)t}[/tex] term will go away after n iterations of integration by parts and one final integration of the term itself.
 
Last edited:
So far I have [tex]\int t^n e^{(s-a)t} dt = \frac{t^n e^{(s-a)t}}{s-a} - \frac{n t^{n-1} e^{(s-a)t}}{(s-a)^{2}} + \frac{(n^2-n) t^{n-2} e^{(s-a)t}}{(s-a)^{3}} . . . . . . .[/tex]. I'm just not seeing how [tex]e^{(s-a)t}[/tex] goes away.
 
Last edited:
I think the easiest way is to do it in pieces.

prove L[ t^n ] = n!/s^(n+1).

This is easy if you know
[tex]n! = \Gamma ( n+1 ) = \int_0^{\infty} t^n exp(-t) dt[/tex]
otherwise an inductive proof on n is pretty straight forward.

Then i would show if L[f(t)] = F(s) then L[f(t)exp(at)] = F(s-a). Since this is just a relable-ing operation it should
be easy to show.
 
Last edited:
an inductive proof

EDIT: changed the limits of integration to be from 0 to infinity (instead of -infinity to infinity).

The Laplace transform of [itex]t^n e^{at}[/itex] is

[tex]\int_{t=0}^{\infty} t^n e^{at} e^{-st}dt=\int_{t=0}^{\infty} t^n e^{(a-s)t} = \frac{n!}{(s - a)^{n+1}}[/tex]

an inductive proof goes as follows:

i. For n=0, [tex]\int_{t=0}^{\infty} t^0 e^{(a-s)t}= \frac{1}{s - a} \left[ e^{(a-s)t} \right]_{t=0}^{\infty} = \frac{0!}{(s - a)^{0+1}}[/tex]

ii. Assume that

[tex]\int_{t=0}^{\infty} t^n e^{(a-s)t} = \frac{n!}{(s - a)^{n+1}}[/tex]

holds for some fixed integer n >0, then

[tex]\int_{t=0}^{\infty} t^{n+1} e^{(a-s)t} dt= \left[ -\frac{t^{n+1}e^{(a-s)t}}{s-a}\right]_{t=0}^{\infty} + \frac{n+1}{s-a}\int_{t=0}^{\infty} t^{n} e^{(a-s)t} dt[/tex]

which, by hypothesis,

[tex]= \frac{n+1}{s-a}\frac{n!}{(s - a)^{n+1}} = \frac{(n+1)!}{(s - a)^{(n+1)+1}}[/tex]

and so

[tex]\int_{t=0}^{\infty} t^n e^{(a-s)t} = \frac{n!}{(s - a)^{n+1}}[/tex]

holds for every non-negative integer n by induction.
 
Last edited:
Tony11235 said:
So far I have [tex]\int t^n e^{(s-a)t} dt = \frac{t^n e^{(s-a)t}}{s-a} - \frac{n t^n e^{(s-a)t}}{(s-a)^{2}} + \frac{(n^2-n) t^n e^{(s-a)t}}{(s-a)^{3}} . . . . . . .[/tex]. I'm just not seeing how [tex]e^{(s-a)t}[/tex] goes away.


Remember that you differentiate the t^n term each iteration of integration by parts, so the exponent of t should decrese by one for successive terms in the above sum, after n such terms the exponent of t will be 0 leaving only the exponential to integrate.
 
Nice advice, but I was instructed to derive the laplace transform from integration by parts, or else I would have used the property, If L{f(x)} = F(s), then L{(e^at)f(x)} = F(s-a).
 
benorin said:
Remember that you differentiate the t^n term each iteration of integration by parts, so the exponent of t should decrese by one for successive terms in the above sum, after n such terms the exponent of t will be 0 leaving only the exponential to integrate.

Sorry, that was a typo.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
9
Views
3K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
4K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K