Understanding the Pendulum Equation: How Do We Go from Slope to Equation?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the pendulum equation in the context of a lab experiment. Participants are exploring the relationship between the period of a pendulum and the length of its string, specifically how to derive the equation from the slope of a plotted graph.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the significance of the slope obtained from plotting the period against the length of the string. They question how to transition from the slope to the pendulum equation. Other participants suggest plotting the square of the period against the length to achieve a linear relationship and discuss the implications of units in the context of the equation.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering suggestions for alternative approaches and clarifying concepts related to the graphing of the pendulum data. There is a constructive exchange of ideas, with some guidance provided on the relationship between the slope and the pendulum's behavior.

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The original poster is constrained by the requirement to derive the equation independently rather than relying on external sources. There is an ongoing exploration of assumptions regarding the graphing method used in the experiment.

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ok well we are doing a lab and we have to figure out the pendulum equation. I know that I can look it up online but she wants us to figure it out for ourselves and have the work. What we did was we set up the pendulum at different lengths and recorded how long it took for ten swings and then divided that by ten, which in turn was how long 1 period was.we then plotted period vs length of the string and found a slope. now here is where I am stuck. what exactly is the slope supposed to represent? and how do I go from the slope to the equation?


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This is an equation that she gave us T=K(sqrtL) where T= period, K=slope, and L= length of the string... Idk if this'll help tho


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What slope did you find when you plotted the graph? Are you sure you did not plot a graph of T2 vs. L ?

If you did not do the latter, then I suggest you do it. If you did, do you know the equation of a straight line?
 
Well you should have plotted (Period)^2 against Length to get a straight line...

ok well let's use units to help us

[tex]T^2=kl[/tex] where k is the gradient of a graph of [tex]T^2[/tex] vs [tex]l[/tex]

and therefore [tex]k=\frac{T^2}{l}[/tex] meaning that the units of k is [tex]\frac{s^2}{m}[/tex] or better put [tex]s^2m^{-1}[/tex]

now let's for a moment just put the units of k into a way that looks better(usually with m as i +ve power),to do this we would have to put 1 over those units. Right?

giving [tex]\frac{1}{ms^2}[/tex] ...Ah...what's this [tex]ms^2[/tex] you know what these units represent...and the only thing with such units that affects your pendulum is acceleration due to gravity...and so and so your gradient is actually a ratio of [tex]Some Number,P : g[/tex] meaning that

[tex]T^2=\frac{P}{g}l[/tex] now using your value for k and a value for g...find that number P and see if it looks closely to the value of [tex]4\pi^2[/tex]
 
oh wow thanks ^_^ lol that was a lot of help
 

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