Understanding the quadratic Stark effect

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The discussion revolves around the quadratic Stark effect, specifically the perturbation of a quantum system's Hamiltonian by a constant electric field. Participants explore the relationship between the second order energy correction in perturbation theory and the classical definition of polarizability, addressing the mathematical consistency of these definitions.

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  • One participant describes the Hamiltonian under the influence of an electric field and notes that the first order energy correction is zero due to symmetry, while the second order correction is proportional to F².
  • Another participant questions the consistency of the second order energy correction expression with the classical definition of polarizability, suggesting a potential misunderstanding in the derivation.
  • Some participants emphasize the need to consider higher-order terms in the expansion of the state when calculating energy corrections to second order.
  • There is a discussion about the dependence of the normalization factor of the first order correction to the wave function on conventions, which complicates the interpretation of results.
  • A later reply asserts that the energy shift is indeed equal to -αF²/2, aligning with classical results, and provides a formula for polarizability that is independent of the external field.
  • One participant expresses confusion about connecting the derived energy correction to the classical definition of induced dipole moment.
  • Another participant clarifies that the energy of an induced dipole in an external field includes a factor of 1/2, reinforcing the classical analogy.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the relationship between quantum mechanical and classical definitions of polarizability. There is no consensus on the clarity of the connection between the derived expressions and classical definitions, indicating ongoing uncertainty and exploration.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the normalization of the first order correction is convention-dependent, which may affect interpretations of results. The discussion also highlights the complexity of perturbation theory and its implications for understanding energy corrections.

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Students and researchers interested in quantum mechanics, particularly those studying perturbation theory and the Stark effect, may find this discussion relevant.

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This is what I understand right now: The stark effect is when we perturb a system with hamiltonian H_0 by applying a constant electric field, so that

[tex]H = H_0 - F D_z[/tex]

where F is the field, aligned in the z direction, and D_z is the z-component of the induced dipole. The first order correction to the ground state energy in perturbation theory is 0 because of symmetry, but the second order correction should be propositional to [tex]F^2[/tex], and is in general given by

[tex]E_0^2 =-\sum_n \frac{|<n|(-F D_z)|0>|^2}{E_n - E_0}[/tex]

What I don't understand: I have seen it claimed in a couple of sources that the second order correction to energy is

[tex]E_0^2 = -\frac{1}{2}\alpha F^2[/tex]

Where [tex]\alpha[/tex] is the polarizability. I have not problem with making this definition, since it has the correct F-dependence, but it is claimed that this definition is consistent with the classical definition of polarizability: that to first order [tex]D_z = \alpha F[/tex], or equivalently

[tex]\alpha = \frac{<F|D_z|F>}{F}[/tex]

where [tex]|F>[/tex] is the ground state of the full perturbed hamiltonian.

I'm having trouble convincing myself that these definitions are consistent. I have tried expanding the left hand side of

[tex]<F| H_0 - F D_z |F> = E_0 - \frac{1}{2}\alpha F^2[/tex]

by setting [tex]|F> = |0> + F|F'>[/tex], where [tex]|0>[/tex] is the ground state of [tex]H_0[/tex] and I can get to an expression like

[tex]\frac{<F|D_z|F>}{F} = <F'|H_0|F'> + \frac{1}{2}\alpha[/tex]

which seems to suggest

[tex]F^2 <F'|H_0|F'> = \frac{1}{2}\alpha F^2= -E_0^2[/tex]

I'm not sure if this is true, or if I've made a mistake. Is it generally true, that if [tex]\psi_0^1[/tex] is the first order correction to the wave function, that we have

[tex]<\psi_0^1|H_0|\psi_0^1> = -E_0^2[/tex] ?

Any advice or ideas would be much appreciated.

Thanks!
 
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fzero said:
If you want to compute the energy of a state to 2nd order, you must go to 2nd order in the expansion of the state. See, e.g. http://galileo.phys.virginia.edu/classes/752.mf1i.spring03/Time_Ind_PT.htm

Right, but if I include the second order ([tex]|F> = |0> + F|F'> + F^2|F''>[/tex]) term I get

[tex]\frac{<F|D_z|F>}{F} = <F'|H_0|F'> + F^2<F''|H_0|F''> + \frac{1}{2}\alpha[/tex]

but the claim is only that

[tex]\frac{<F|D_z|F>}{F} = \alpha[/tex]

to first order, so the [tex]F^2<F''|H_0|F''>[/tex] should not contribute.
 
It is possible to show that

[tex]\langle \psi_0^1|H_0|\psi_0^1\rangle = -E_0^2 + E_0^0 \langle \psi_0^1|\psi_0^1\rangle[/tex]

by projecting [tex]\langle\psi_0^1|[/tex] onto the linear terms and then using the 2nd order result. The value of [tex]\langle \psi_0^1|\psi_0^1\rangle[/tex] is convention dependent and generally not 1.

In Sakurai's conventions where [tex]\langle \psi_n^0 | \psi\rangle =1[/tex],

[tex] \langle \psi_0^1|\psi_0^1\rangle=-\sum_n \frac{|\langle \psi^0_n | D_z | \psi^0_0 \rangle |^2}{(E_n - E_0)^2}.[/tex]

The main thing to conclude from this is that [tex]\langle \psi_0^1|\psi_0^1\rangle[/tex] itself isn't well defined and we should press further in perturbation theory to relate this to expressions using the unperturbed states.


To get back to your equivalency check, I think you're making things overcomplicated. The point is that the energy shift is equal to [tex]-\alpha F^2/2[/tex] (this is the expression that corresponds to the classical result), where


[tex] \alpha = 2 \sum_n \frac{|\langle \psi^0_n | D_z | \psi^0_0 \rangle |^2}{E_n - E_0}[/tex]

is independent of the external field. If you do textbook perturbation theory you can obtain this result.
 
fzero said:
It is possible to show that

[tex]\langle \psi_0^1|H_0|\psi_0^1\rangle = -E_0^2 + E_0^0 \langle \psi_0^1|\psi_0^1\rangle[/tex]

by projecting [tex]\langle\psi_0^1|[/tex] onto the linear terms and then using the 2nd order result. The value of [tex]\langle \psi_0^1|\psi_0^1\rangle[/tex] is convention dependent and generally not 1.

In Sakurai's conventions where [tex]\langle \psi_n^0 | \psi\rangle =1[/tex],

[tex] \langle \psi_0^1|\psi_0^1\rangle=-\sum_n \frac{|\langle \psi^0_n | D_z | \psi^0_0 \rangle |^2}{(E_n - E_0)^2}.[/tex]

The main thing to conclude from this is that [tex]\langle \psi_0^1|\psi_0^1\rangle[/tex] itself isn't well defined and we should press further in perturbation theory to relate this to expressions using the unperturbed states.

Thanks for your help, I will think about this.

fzero said:
To get back to your equivalency check, I think you're making things overcomplicated. The point is that the energy shift is equal to [tex]-\alpha F^2/2[/tex] (this is the expression that corresponds to the classical result), where


[tex] \alpha = 2 \sum_n \frac{|\langle \psi^0_n | D_z | \psi^0_0 \rangle |^2}{E_n - E_0}[/tex]

is independent of the external field. If you do textbook perturbation theory you can obtain this result.

Again, thanks for your help. I'm finishing my undergrad and only recently have been introduced to perturbation theory. I have no doubt I'm making things overcomplicated, but it's still not clear to me how [tex]E_0^2 = -\alpha F^2/2[/tex] is equivalent to the classical definition [tex]D_z = \alpha F[/tex]. I have been working with the definition of [tex]\alpha[/tex] you quoted in my project, and I understand how to derive it given [tex]E_0^2[/tex] as above, I'm just not clear on connecting it to the classical definition.

Thanks
 
rgoerke said:
Again, thanks for your help. I'm finishing my undergrad and only recently have been introduced to perturbation theory. I have no doubt I'm making things overcomplicated, but it's still not clear to me how [tex]E_0^2 = -\alpha F^2/2[/tex] is equivalent to the classical definition [tex]D_z = \alpha F[/tex]. I have been working with the definition of [tex]\alpha[/tex] you quoted in my project, and I understand how to derive it given [tex]E_0^2[/tex] as above, I'm just not clear on connecting it to the classical definition.

Thanks

The energy of a induced dipole in an external field is (there is a factor of 1/2 with respect to the analogous formula for a permanent dipole)

[tex]U = \frac{1}{2} \vec{D}\cdot\vec{E} ,[/tex]

so if [tex]\vec{D} = \alpha \vec{E},[/tex] then

[tex]U = - \frac{1}{2} \alpha |\vec{E}|^2.[/tex]
 
Of course, that just comes from classical E&M. Thanks a lot, I understand now.
 

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